Which colour Puma rusts the most.

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RICHARD MANSFIELD2

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Hi,
over the time that I have been a member I have taken a keen intrest in other members projects.
I enjoy looking at photos that are posted in these threds. One thing that has struck me is that some colours of Pumas seem to rust far more that others. We can ignor the rear arches I think every Puma has suffered without fail in that department.
For example I have a 2000 black Puma when I went to rust proof it I removed arch liners an was surprised to find only the smallest odd speck of rust with only very slight traces off rust on the under side. The only treatment needed was a light brush off and a generous coating of black waxoil.(handy that the car is black) even suspension components were pretty good.
The car has covered 96K in all weathers and was not garaged for the first 10 years of its life. When I see photos of other black Pumas they all seem in good nick. Yet some photos I have seen of silver cars show lots of scabby rust even holes that have been caused by rust.
Has any one else noticed this.
Regards
Richard
 
I had 2 silver puma both very rusty 2 black pumas also very rusty and a yellow that only has real issues with the rear arches
 
Could be that black cars in general seem to hide rusty patches better.
I used to have a Mk 1 Fiesta which was a sort of burnt orangey brown colour, it was rusty as fook but looked mint from 20 metres :lol:
Paul
 
Black does seem to hide it better in photos. There are also more silver ones that other colours which may contribute to the impression of there being more rusty eos that colour.

On a possible note: would black ones warm up quicker in sunlight and clear any condensation in voids??
 
I still maintain the later the car is the rustier it tends to be! Thunders seem to rot pretty quickly in comparison with the older cars unless they are very well cared for.

In terms of colour, I've seen bad examples of all the colours to be honest.
 
As rust seems to start from inside seams on the shell such as rear arch to inner arch and floor strengtheners to floorpan, etc, etc, etc I would guess that colour is irrelevant as these areas only ever see primer from dipping. That's why the factory applied waxoil substance also doesn't work because that doesn't get to the inside of the seam so the seam rots and then continues up inside the waxoil. There may be differences in ways that the factory dipped the shells which could mean that cars of different ages last longer or shorter than other ones but other than that, climatic conditions etc, they all rot :-(
Barry
 
Hi, that's a very mixed response, that does not seem to support any theory. I must admit that all the points raised appear to be credible and no definitive answer may agreed upon. But the only thing that surprises me is that my Puma appears to be almost totally rust free at this time in its life. But before you cynics think that this ground work before my Puma comes on the market you can rest assured you will not see it up for sale because I intend to keep it for the rest of the time that I am on the planet.
Regards
Richard.
 
Hi Richard
Not cryptic just fatalistic towards the Puma. On the outside mine looks very good but dig deeper and you can see that things are happening. You could have a totally rot free floor from underneath and yet when you take out the carpets and sound deadening you can see the floor lifting between spot welds or holes appearing in the panel sealer.Admittedly I'm being a bit anal about trying to get mine as rot free as I can but they all rot You are very lucky if it's almost totally rust free.
Barry
 
Hi Barry,
I know where you are coming from, In the past with my Minis and Hillman Imps I have had no end of trouble with water and condensation problems. But with my Puma I have never ever suffered with condensation or dampness in the car or light units or any type of water leak what so ever any where in the car. When I read on the site about other owners problems I have no concept of them as I have never experienced any of these problems. Am I just a very lucky Puma owner.
Regards
Richard.
 
Hi Richard
The floor rust on mine hasn't been caused by water leaks inside it's dampness that gets into the seam between the strengthener and the floor and then rots out the floor from underneath. I know what you mean about old cars leaking though as MK1 and 2 Escorts were notorious for leaking through the windscreen and my ex had an Escort Cabby that was about as waterproof as a Colander.
Barry
 
Hi Barry,
you have given me food for thought, I will promise you one day this summer to get the Puma out and look a bit deeper and report back as to what I find. Having said that my Puma has only got wet five times in the past two and a half years, once in the rain on a wet weekend and four times for a wash and polish. I know that many of you will think that this a bit extreme but I will qualify my objective of preserving my Puma to the best of my ability. I have owned many cars in the past which have been nondescript and bland, but over a period of time they have become established as valuable classics. I intend My Puma to be along side these cars ( not bland by any means). Now I am going to take my life into my own hands and put it on record (as far as I am concerned) and state that The Puma in time will be a worthy contender and perhaps serparse the original Mini. I have owned many Minis, of all varients( 27 in total) But by far the puma is the drivers car.
Regards
Richard
 
Hi Richard
I agree with you totally hence the time I've spent working on mine. I don't think they'll reach any where near the value of Escorts or Minis though as they have a world wide popularity.
Barry
 
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