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Post by DradusContact » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:01 am

Done a search for this but can't see a post for it. Has anyone seen this guy on YouTube who shipped his puma over to America and drove it from Detroit to San Francisco?
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Post by MikeT66 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:38 pm

:lol: I was thinking about this only yesterday, as I'm trying to formulate a plan to head to the States for Sebring 12hour sportscar race in March next year, and thought it would be a blast (impossible dream) to get my Puma over there. I recalled this guy taking his Puma to the USA, but haven't heard anything since.

I imagine getting Parts would be a logistical nightmare, so any issues may result in the little car getting scrapped - even over here they are becoming a little harder to source sometimes.
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Post by YOG » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:48 pm

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Post by DradusContact » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:51 pm

Here is the youtube page for him

https://www.youtube.com/user/chrisjamesbehan

He makes it to San Fran then recreates the original advert there. Is he not on here or anything? He must be on one of the puma forums surely.

Edit: Ah i had a feeling there might be a post about it. I did search 'detroit' 'america' 'usa' etc but couldn't see anything.
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Post by MikeT66 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:56 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:



Absolutely brilliant - well done that man! :thumbs:
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Post by XAF » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:18 pm

The full thread is on Puma People, as far as I’m aware, it had to be scrapped at the end as was prohibitively expensive to put back on a boat to blighty
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Post by DradusContact » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:47 pm

XAF wrote: The full thread is on Puma People, as far as I’m aware, it had to be scrapped at the end as was prohibitively expensive to put back on a boat to blighty
What an absolute waste. I bet there must be a car enthusiast or collector over there who would of been made up with it. America is so big though I guess it's being close to one that would be the issue.
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Post by XAF » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:59 am

DradusContact wrote:
XAF wrote: The full thread is on Puma People, as far as I’m aware, it had to be scrapped at the end as was prohibitively expensive to put back on a boat to blighty
What an absolute waste. I bet there must be a car enthusiast or collector over there who would of been made up with it. America is so big though I guess it's being close to one that would be the issue.
The issue was that it was too ‘new’ to qualify for official importing, so the only way to drive it over there is on a 12 month temporary importation permit. After that you have to prove it’s left the country or that it’s been scrapped. You can’t even legally park it up and not use it
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Post by MikeT66 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:42 pm

XAF wrote:
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XAF wrote: The full thread is on Puma People, as far as I’m aware, it had to be scrapped at the end as was prohibitively expensive to put back on a boat to blighty
What an absolute waste. I bet there must be a car enthusiast or collector over there who would of been made up with it. America is so big though I guess it's being close to one that would be the issue.
The issue was that it was too ‘new’ to qualify for official importing, so the only way to drive it over there is on a 12 month temporary importation permit. After that you have to prove it’s left the country or that it’s been scrapped. You can’t even legally park it up and not use it
I never knew that, XAF - what is the age thing? Can 'official importing' only happen for cars of a certain age? I know that the McLaren F1 had to be specially imported (not sure how) in order to be legal on the US roads. I'm assuming that the US don't have a SORN equivalent? What if you are in the middle of a 5-year restoration - do you still have to tax it?
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Post by XAF » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:51 pm

I’m sure the manufacturers get away with it somehow, but the US have cracked down lately too with ‘old’ Defenders and Mini’s being seized and crushed as they were imported using old VINs from a donor car. Obvious when you see a 2000 era multi-point Mini wearing a 1976 number plate.

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A motor vehicle that is at least 25 years old can be lawfully imported into the U.S. without regard to whether it complies with all applicable DOT Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). Such a vehicle would be entered under Box 1 on the HS-7 Declaration form to be given to Customs at the time of importation. If you wish to see that form, you may download a copy from our website at www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import.
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Post by Fanwheel » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:32 pm

I think the issue for a car under 25 years old is whether it conformed to US standards when it was originally on sale / if it was ever for sale in the US as a new model.

Things like certain standards of bumpers, lights, reflectors - even crash-testing - might be necessary to conform to the standards. Plus making newer cars harder to import protects the US car industry...

So - it’s a problem for a modern classic like the Puma which was never sold in the US in the first place.

I have a dream one day to retire to Florida. My Puma will be considerably older than 25 by then (more like 40) so, in my dream, there is no issue preventing it coming with us :)
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Post by Frank » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:06 am

Interestingly, you would only have to, technically, cross just 75 miles of sea to get from the UK to the USA.
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Post by DradusContact » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:12 pm

Wasn't there something called the '911' law or something? Bill Gates had a porchse but couldn't get it imported for years or something I seem to remember.
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Post by yippeekiay » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:16 pm

Jealous :oops:

I was toying with this a few years back after I'd toured Europe, drive to America & then dump/scrap the Puma there after touring.

The plan was far too ambitious for me & that idea was scrapped after I got as far as Russia & couldn't see any real detail in the roads or if it was even possible to get to the Bering Staight at the shortest crossing point into Alaska :lol:
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