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Post by The Arch Bishop » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:43 pm

I just don't know. Outsourcing means money and that's in short supply at the moment. The pretensioners were 'sorted' by the garage last year to get it through the MOT, and they couldn't exactly tell me what worked in the end, just that it stopped flashing so they flung it through the MOT as quickly as possible while it was out!

It's worth naff all and will always be worth naff all, as it's over 100k on the clock and has had an obvious respray. Pumas are only ever going to command half decent money if they are low mileage and original. Jegger's a trigger's broom of a car!

I think if it had ever worked properly at some point (braked, steered, gone), then I'd think differently. It has fought me every step of the way. Some cars feel like they want to be saved. This one not so much.
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Post by tuonokid » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:56 pm

Hi Lee
I understand your pain as it's been a fight over the years. If it's not a daily driver and it's not a bad shell so you can take your time with it it might be worth saving. If it's in anyway rotten and full of all those problems probably best to cut your losses and then get another low mileage one :-)
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Post by The Arch Bishop » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:21 am

The shell is (very) sound enough Barry, it's just my patience running out. It's not a daily driver, but I find it frustrating with it skulking down the driveway and refusing any attempts to resurrect it.

It's overflowing with new or nearly new bits, but no matter how much money I fling down the pit, it's never quite fixed! If I could sort the airbag light and get an MOT on the flipping thing, then it might just raise interest again, but it doesn't seem interested in being fixed no matter how many bits or bodges I throw at it.

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Post by tuonokid » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:40 am

Hi Lee
Look on the positive side, how much has it learned you about mechanics and electrics. You're right though at 15 years old or over they are getting temperamental and contrary to the cars I'm used to work on are quite complicated. At the end of the day Lee there's only you to make the decision.
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Post by CherryVimto » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:00 am

Hi Lee

It really would be a shame to end this, but I can totally understand where you are coming from.
Yes, it can be very frustrating fixing one problem just for another to rear its ugly head and there never seems to be an end to it all but I think that seems to be a trait with the Puma.
I'm a very determined & persistent person by nature and don't give up on something easily, but even I feel there is no end to some things and do wonder when its all going to get sorted!

The Puma has a sound body/structure... That for me would make it a keeper. I'd prefer to fix the mechanical parts which I can do myself than have to shell out several hundred for the more specialist work e.g. welding.

You say your rear bushes have gone again... if that is the case, would there be an alignment issue with the rear beam/mounts? If you've got weird handling issues and the rear bushes don't last long, I would be looking at the back end.

I've got an internal wiring loom although it's age/origins are unknown, but it did come from a trusted member on here so it's not 'dodgy' as it were.
If you need any electrical bits or wiring to throw on your car even to test/prove circuits give me shout. I can either send you bits over or drop the whole lot down to you... I'm probably never going to use it.
The loom may or may not have an ABS module, I don't know as I've not really looked for one on there. If it has I'll throw you the part number....

If you need a hand with anything I'm more than happy to come over with a boot full of tools, you're not that far away from me.

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Post by The Arch Bishop » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:25 am

Cheers all - I'm going to have a good hard think about it. The missus is uneasy about me chucking it back in (surprising) and the kids looked horrified (they generally look horrified at everything).

Hopefully, I'll finish fixing the MGF today and the Subaru is off to get fixed on Thursday (turbo up-pipe issues) so I can move on to Jegger once again. I think the strain of having three cars all being varying levels of broken has put the strain on a little in the last couple of weeks. Hoping to get my mojo back soon.

Thanks again for the support - the reason to be involved in a good forum! :thumbs:
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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:13 am

It is always very diffcuilt (and TBH not very smart) to advise someone else what he should be doing with HIS money. So I am going to try to put on some light from other angle, perhaps.
The way I see it, you have already payed for your car and invested in it (quite a lot, be it money or effort or time). The shell is sound, which is becoming a rare thing these days.
You still have some problems with your car and you feel like you have taken a blind alley with it. Is it possible just to store it somewhere and forget about it for a year or so? It won't fall apart during that period and then you would perhaps find some new motivation for it? As it is now (inoperable to an extent) it won't bring you any money in case of selling it.
I am not trying to persuade you one way or another, I am just trying to give you my opinion on the matter; you might regret your terminal decision in a year or so, and if you after that time still have the car you can try doing something about it. If you get rid of it, that will be the end...
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Post by The Arch Bishop » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:54 pm

I'm not happy seeing dead cars down the driveway - that's the simple truth! I've seen old chaps with rotting heaps refusing to sell them even though there's no chance of them ever being able to fix them up again. I find that quite sad ultimately.

Regardless, I've come to a conclusion or plan of sorts. Will see if it pans out before making any decisions.

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Post by evilrob » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:58 pm

Dear Lee,

I think you should get naked and press yourself against Jegger. I also think I should join you both.

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Post by The Arch Bishop » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:07 pm

Well Rob, as always, that's the dream, but fate keeps conspiring to keep us apart....

One day my friend....one day.....
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Post by evilrob » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:20 pm

On a serious note, don't give up on Jegger you twat. :-D

Or if you do, I want first dibs. Jegger feels like part of the family. :wub:
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Post by tuonokid » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:24 pm

Hi Lee
You touched on a sore point for me there, old hoarders hanging on to classic cars because they don't want to sell and you just know in 10 years time they will be completely knackered. They haven't the skills, they won't pay the money, so the car/bike dies because they're stupid and greedy, aaagh really irritates me!!!!!
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Post by The Arch Bishop » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:29 pm

evilrob wrote: On a serious note, don't give up on Jegger you twat. :-D

Or if you do, I want first dibs. Jegger feels like part of the family. :thumbs:
Fair comment. Succinct and to the point!
tuonokid wrote: Hi Lee
You touched on a sore point for me there, old hoarders hanging on to classic cars because they don't want to sell and you just know in 10 years time they will be completely knackered. They haven't the skills, they won't pay the money, so the car/bike dies because they're stupid and greedy, aaagh really irritates me!!!!!
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There's an old chap across the road with a late 80's Nissan 300ZX that has sat there for over 10 years. I had a chat with him the other week as my dad bought the last UK Turbo model in the UK (which then got nicked and burnt out), but he gave the very clear impression that he'd get around to it one day. The poor thing just sits there doing nothing gently rusting away. It bothers me....
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Post by evilrob » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:33 pm

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evilrob wrote: On a serious note, don't give up on Jegger you twat. :-D

Or if you do, I want first dibs. Jegger feels like part of the family. :thumbs:
Fair comment. Succinct and to the point!
You know me... a man of few words, usually rude.

Seriously, now, though... Like, seriously seriously - if I can help in any way, lemme know mate.
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Post by The Arch Bishop » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:36 pm

evilrob wrote:
Seriously, now, though... Like, seriously seriously - if I can help in any way, lemme know mate.
Wanna remove a rear axle with me huh? ;-)

I'll give you an enormous extension....bar.
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Post by tuonokid » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:39 pm

Hi Lee
I can understand that but 300ZX, a bit too lardy American for a classic. There's much nicer Jap cars out there (even though I don't particularly like them). Integras,R33s, R34s, S600s, S800s, 240Zs, 260Zs etc.
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Post by The Arch Bishop » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:46 pm

Maybe, but back when I was a lad, a 228bhp coupe was quite a car! It was also brand new and shiny! Contrary to popular belief, it was a lovely car and went like stink!
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Post by evilrob » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:48 pm

The Arch Bishop wrote: Wanna remove a rear axle with me huh?
I was thinking more along the lines of cheering you on in my mankini, but okay...

You know I'm a complete retard with a spanner, but if you need an extra pair of hands and are prepared to talk me through what you need me to do very slowly (like you would a child), I'm there!
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Post by The Arch Bishop » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:56 pm

evilrob wrote:
The Arch Bishop wrote: Wanna remove a rear axle with me huh?
I was thinking more along the lines of cheering you on in my mankini, but okay...

You know I'm a complete retard with a spanner, but if you need an extra pair of hands and are prepared to talk me through what you need me to do very slowly (like you would a child), I'm there!
I ruddy love you fella! :P

You can always come and polish the feck out of an MG if that suits better!
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Post by tuonokid » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:57 pm

Hi Lee
The Jap car of the moment is the Honda S2000 but in the Westfield club we know them as Donors but they are now becoming a classic car in their own right. Much better in a seven :-)
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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:11 am

I won't use the same words like evilrob has (I don't know you that well to give myself a permission to do that) but, don't give up!
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Post by The Arch Bishop » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:15 am

Wild E. Coyote wrote: I won't use the same words like evilrob has (I don't know you that well to give myself a permission to do that) but, don't give up!
Simple as that
You're more than welcome to use whatever words you like - permission granted! I'm difficult to upset (plus I like a good bit of profanity)! :grin:
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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:53 am

Maybe I should tell you a little story. I had driven a puma in Bavaria in 1996. It was raining all the time, the weather was really bad, but the car was awesome and I fell in love with it on the spot.
The car finally came to our market (two years leater, IIRC) and the price was written in some symbols. Translated to commom language it said unobtainable (it was 56.000 DEM at the time, the same as top spec alfa 156 1.8 engine with 140 bhp) and that was it.
I got married, kids arrived, focus Mk1 was our tools of transportation and I thought I had given up. Still, the bug was inside. And finally the opportunity came, I went to Bonn (roughly a 1000 km drive IN ONE DRECTION) and bought a second hand example. It was 2013. I believe and here I am now thinking how to get my six speeded g'box (ST180) that is waiting at Erroll's and how to put in puma, where to place VSS that is not part of newer gearbox etc....
What I trying to say: you guys on The Isle are spoilt for choice and I really hate to see something very useable go to waste. If you knew how difficuilt or sometimes expensive is to get parts for puma to keep it running in some other parts of world (Europe) you'd cherish it forever :wink:
I didn't mean to offend you anyhow, I was just trying to explain it from some other point of view.
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Post by The Arch Bishop » Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:24 pm

Uuuuuupdate time - the pretensioner light is finally out and it only took me the entire summer and two pages of forum suggestions to fix.... The epic, roller coaster tale of that is documented here if you want to see how a man can be completely flummoxed but three components and some wire - http://www.projectpuma.com/viewtopic.php?t=29889

Anyway, this means I can have a crack at an MOT for it, which I'll book in for sometime in the next two weeks. I'm not expecting it to pass, but it'll give me a list of stuff I need to fix urgently.

I'm going to take a stab at rear brake lines (were on the adivsory list for two years but surprisingly not the last one) and possibly the rear axle in some way.

If it goes better than expected, I'm going to find a really good tyre place and have them track it up. I'm not convinced that something wasn't mullered when the tyres were fitted as the problem started the day they were changed and testing another full set didn't fix it.

Just in time for winter... :roll:
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