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Re: T464 PNB - The budget bodge [Picture heavy]

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Re: T464 PNB - The budget bodge [Picture heavy]

Postby TGPlayer1 » Tue May 19, 2015 7:59 pm

Made a decision on the track wheels and went with gold, and I think they came up ok, considering I did them with the - I only know this now - crappy Halfords aerosol paint. I thought "2 cans will be plenty". Turns out I'm a glass half full kinda chap and each wheel took one tin. " Not to worry, I'll just get more tomorrow" I thought. But no, my local branch only had two cans, and I was the lucky owner, so I had to drive to the next closest one. Apparently God didn't like this idea an tried to wash me off the road with rain that would make Noah get an umbrella. But, undeterred and singing along to some BB King (RIP) I aquaplaned my way into the car park and got their last two cans of the elusive Nissan Gold Metallic I so desired.

And here they are!

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I'll stick the rubber on in a few days when the paint has cured all nicely and then I'll go tearing up the B-roads to see how much difference track tyres make over recycled Chinese condoms. So stay frosty and I'll update later in the week, but for now the big hand is pointing at 12 and the little hand is pointing at beer so I'm going.

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Re: T464 PNB - "Smokey Joe"

Postby TGPlayer1 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:45 pm

It's MOT time next week, and I've got a lot of work to do, well, a lot of bribing of the tester really.

From what I can tell I need to replace the exhaust centre, get the horn working and wire brush and under seal the floor pan, hopefully I won't find any big holes near the sills, which will need replacing before long, again.

Whilst I'm there I'm going to fit some goodies; rear beam poly bushes, ARB poly bushes and 30mm hub spacers.

Then it's the big one, bidding the engine so that it doesn't fill Kwik Fit with blue smoke, for the 5th time. Basically fresh 20w50 mixed some Winn's Oil Treatment, and a kind word to the tester to not rev it over 2500 and it should just slip through, unless it's just too rich, which maybe a concern.

So it's prayer time really, I can only hope it goes through, but for now it's just a dirty weekend for me, only not the kind I'd like.

Oh also I fitted a cold air induction system, which consists of a cone filter and some flexible ducting cable tied into place :ok:
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Re: T464 PNB - "Smokey Joe"

Postby TGPlayer1 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:41 pm

I only realised after i finished typing it that this is a very long ramble, so sorry about that.


Well this is long overdue an update, as a fair bit has happened in the last month.

I spent a few days in the workshop getting everything up to scratch, ready for the MOT. I fitted the rear beam poly bushes, after fighting with the original ones to get them out. The process I used was to burn away the rubber with a blow torch (whilst holding my breath for far too long), then use a pneumatic hacksaw to cut away what was still left, eventually resorting to twatting the centre out with a hammer. Then i rubbed away any residual rubber with a pneumatic finger sander to leave about 10mm of clean metal to cut the outer section so i could get it out. Then i slipped in the poly bushes and refitted the beam.

Then i stuck on the 30mm hub spacers, which was totally uneventful and strangely easy, apart from the awkwardness of course, and sheer amount of rust in my eyes. I also sorted out the horn, by borrowing the one from my motorbike, and repaired any rust holes with a coat of satin black - which worked as there was no mention on the MOT of the large holes :lol:

Next was to fit the ARB bushes, which didn't happen as there is just no access, so that's been left in abayance, to be done when the engine swap happens.

With this I serviced the engine, filling it up with nice thick oil and Wynn's to stop the smoke.

After a long night in the workshop i strolled home, ready to start again on the big job of making an exhaust out of bits and bobs that i have bought and what's not completely rusted away.

My own forgetfulness made this job a little harder, as i thought the flange on the cat section was OK and the centre section flange was duff, and as i had a replacement centre without a midbox it would bolt straight together. But no, it was the other way round. So i had to cut the flange off the centre section and get a universal flexi to remake the downpipe. Then i had to remake the rear hanger on the centre section as it had been cut off. With that all hung up and fitted nicely, the back box needed adjustment as the in pipe was the same diameter as the centre pipe, so the flared bit was cut off and a bit of the original exhaust was welded in place, so the back box slots inside the centre pipe. I should point out here that i am incapable of any skilled task so all the cutting and welding was done by my brother, whilst all the monkey work with spanners and hammers was done by me.

And with that it was ready for the MOT, which it failed catastrophically. The emissions were through the roof, and the brake and fog lights were sub par, so some attention was necessary. By which i mean do nothing at all and just grease the tester's palm.

After sitting on the drive for two weeks the battery had gone flat, so flat teh central locking wouldn't open the car, so i had to force open the bonnet by pushing the latch with a screwdriver, luckily i have no grill so access was slightly less impossible. Eventually i got it open and took it for the MOT, which it so very nearly passed on it's own merit; it was 0.01% away from passing. So some things happened that are definitely legal and not shady at all and i walked away with 12 months more motoring joy :thumbs:

And here we are, took it for it's first proper drive after all the work yesterday and it runs just fine, the exhaust is a little quiet for my liking, but hey ho a better back box will sort that. It seems to be firmer at the back with the poly bushes, but it's hard to tell on the road, especially with coilovers, but i know that for track they will be much better. I am now also happy with the stance, i was always annoyed by the back wheels sitting in too far, even with the 20mm spacers, but now it's all gravy and i think it looks spot on.

So for now i'm just into money saving mode. Nothing needs to be done until i am finally allowed to do the engine swap, changing insurance companies in December so that should hopefully be go-time. When i do that i'll fit the ARB bushes, get a track-oriented clutch, fit Redstuff brake pads and fit braided brake lines. Then i can get out onto a track and see how bad i am at it :lol:

Now i'm just looking forward to FordFair. I'll be getting the valeting tools out in a couple of weeks, give it a hell of a buff and wax then get on down to Silverstone.

Also i'll add some pics of the car as it stands, for those who are interested and also because i haven't put any up for a while and i want to :D
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Re: T464 PNB - "Smokey Joe"

Postby tuonokid » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:48 pm

Nice one Tom, always an entertaining read :-) we'll see you at Silverstone.
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Re: T464 PNB - "Smokey Joe"

Postby evilrob » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:17 pm

tuonokid wrote:Nice one Tom, always an entertaining read :-)

Couldn't express this any better. Keep up the good work, sir! :thumbs:
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Re: T464 PNB - "Smokey Joe"

Postby TGPlayer1 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:33 am

Awww guys you're making me blush.


Anyway, some pictures as promised

Poly bush and lack of midbox

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Cut and shut flexi joint - I forgot to mention getting the cat off was a nightmare and getting it back on was even worse; the nuts were so rusted that the studs came out instead, damaging the threads in the process. Luckily I had some spare studs left over from a previous job on a Jaguar and they were the same. It still took about an hour to get it back in though.

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30mm spacers and the stance that they provide

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Need to get the old panther black out again.
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Re: T464 PNB - "Smokey Joe"

Postby TGPlayer1 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:52 am

Today I shall mostly be polishing. A good wash; engine bay, door shuts the lot, followed by AutoGlym Stage 1 and Stage 2 then a healthy dose of T-Cut. That should bring the paint back to life. I'll do a before and after shot to see if my labours pay off, and also how long it takes :D
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Postby TGPlayer1 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:00 pm

Well i finally finished! At first I thought it would never stop raining, but i soldiered on anyhow

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So there I was happily washing away, getting equal parts spray from the jet wash and rain from the sky, when lo and behold my bad luck struck - some of you may have come to expect all my jobs to be fraught with disaster, and for good reason - as the jet wash hose decided enough was enough and did this

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So out comes the hose pipe to finish off.

Once inside and all nice and clean I started to strip things off, like the aerial, wipers, scuttle and washer jets. I took this opportunity to spruce up the scuttle and wipers, going for matt black on the scuttle and gloss black on the wipers.

On to the buffing, the most laborious and boring job I can think of, but it pays off. All was going well until, you know, bad luck and all. The machine polisher had given in and just packed up, which it has done many times before, so I stripped it down to have a gander, but no loose wires or burnt out motors this time, it's just kaput and for no good reason. So I was left staring at this with the dread of hand polishing running through my mind

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All I had left was the area beneath the swage line on the door and rear wing, which just so happened to be the worst part of the body work with a big scuff I was gifted by some tool who got too close the other day.

But all was not lost as the pneumatic DA sander came to the rescue, and I finished off the buff with that. Thankfully I could then do the stage 2 as well, as I was certainly not doing the entire car by hand.

After this everything went strangely smoothly, with no further mishaps, the sun coming out to play a frankly blindingly good job of the paintwork (it's all in the products :lol:). So I eventually got it finished after 7 hours of hard graft, cleaning or repairing virtually everything in sight, leaving just a little bit more interior work to keep me busy tomorrow morning once we've all piled onto the stand. Mind you I did forget to 'smoke' (paint black) my rear fogs, which are the nasty UV faded milky red colour right now, but that's just a small thing.

Overall I'm really happy with the end result, and it amazes me every time just how well the paint comes back to life, even after all these years and dodgy resprays. It was difficult to get a good picture as we were hurrying to get packed up at work when I'd finished, and besides many more photos will be taken tomorrow, not to mention those who'll see it in the flesh, but here's one for posterity

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In all honesty you can't even tell I've put blood, sweat and teabags into it all day but what the hell its there.

Anyway I moustache and get to bed, as I'll be up at 3am to hit the road down to FordFair.

See you there (if you're going)

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Re: T464 PNB - "Smokey Joe"

Postby TGPlayer1 » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:18 pm

Well Joe and I made the 270 mile round trip with little issue, obviously some oil has been consumed (1 litre) and I had the old heaters stuck on hot problem, but only after I'd stopped for a nap on the way home did they get stuck, so it just makes no sense as it's totally random.

Apart from that I had a blast, got to meet some new faces, some familiar faces and see some cracking motors, although I think I've seen enough Focus STs to last me a lifetime.

A better picture of the boy

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The whole stand (minus trublustu - couldn't fit you in the shot sorry)

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It looks overcast in that, but i took it quite early on and the sun came out later and it turned into a blazing hot day, as my wristwatch tan line will attest.


So what's next for the Puma? Hopefully nothing and I can save money :lol:
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Postby TGPlayer1 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:37 am

Wow! 4 months since my last update. Well, true to my word the car's not done much since FordFair, as I bought the Civic just a few days later. I've had it out for a run every month but like I said I needed to save money so it's sat gathering dust for most of the time. Now i've SORN'd it too it's purely ornamental, hopefully not for too long though.

Anyway I am now entering the first step of the transformation, as I finally got the insurance company to allow me to swap the engine for a 1.7. So i'm on the hunt for the final piece of the puzzle - the engine loom. It's an MHA engine, single lambda type from 1999 so if anybody has a suitable loom that would be smashing, I already have the ECU, transponder ring and immobiliser chip from the donor, but for a reason I can't remember there was no wiring with it. I'll make an ad in the wanted section too.

Once I get my hands on that it's just a matter of finding the time to do the swap and then getting down to it.

So, watch this space :D
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Postby tuonokid » Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:31 am

Good luck Tom, I hope everything works out ok with the change and at least you're not too far from Ian G if you need bits.
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Postby TGPlayer1 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:40 am

Well seeing as my last post was in December and I hadn't even driven the car since early January, I thought i'd take advantage of the terrible weather and get Joe out :lol:

Everything went smoothly and he showed no signs of being sat for nearly four months, so that was nice.

The only downside was that now I have a yobbo exhaust on the Civic I want one on the Puma, so some searching down the back of the sofa may have to be done. Or I might consult my sensibility (the girlfriend) and not spend money on something that's not even on the road :roll:

Anyway, here's to the next four (probably more) months of procrastination until I finally find the time and cash to get the 1.7 lump in, then I'll be spoilt for choice of what to drive :grin:
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Postby TGPlayer1 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:52 pm

Well it's been three months and bugger all has been done, as usual. Still without cash and staring a bike test and holiday in the face, once again Joe has taken a back seat.

However, never one to let a bargain pass me by I snapped up a set of Yellowstuff front brake pads from moondustka (thanks Ben :ok:) for less than half the price of new, which crosses an item off the list for when I eventually get on track (literally and metaphorically). Once the engine is in it's more or less ready to go. I'll fit the ARB poly bushes whilst the engine is out and get some braided brake lines, and probably invest in a better suited exhaust (ie not a crap one).
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Postby TGPlayer1 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:45 am

No physical progress has been made, but I have come to a decision for Joe's destiny; full time track monkey.

I want to get a proper exhaust system with tubular manifold and whatnot, and the complications with the cat make it too much of a PITA for me to get it properly road legal.

So between that, the fact I have a daily driver already and the car is begging to be used to his full potential, it only makes sense to go full track. So i'll be ditching anything unnecessary in the pursuit of lightness.

I want to get myself a mk5 Fiesta ZS as i've always loved the way they look and i'm really pining to be in a Ford, and a car with a bloody manual gearbox! Then I can transfer the goodies from Joe into that, ie. the wheels, spacers and interior bits, as most FZSs have horrible coloured interiors and I like simple black stuff.

Anyway, i'll stop rambling now. As always money is holding me back and i'm still not in a position to strip the car where it is, but hopefully i'll have a place to live soon enough, and I can get it stripped in the car park. At least if I get the engine out i'll feel like there's some progress, and I can put my mind to properly getting the new one in, unless it's seized from being sat in storage since September 2014 :roll:
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Postby Doingitsideways » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:15 pm

Give me a shout if you need a lift with owt, Fella. I'm only up the road after all.

Oh, if there's oil in the engine it shouldn't be seized. You'd be surprised, my Capri fired up after not even turning over for ten years.
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Postby TGPlayer1 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:30 am

Well 2017 is the year I'm going to pull my finger out! I have finally made a plan and worked out how to get Joe both road legal and track-worthy, without costing more than I can afford. In short it involves a lot of eBay scouring, a donor car and some hard graft, so nothing out of this world. My aim is to have him on the road and looking like a purposeful machine by the end of July, so as that I can get down to FordFair this year, and hopefully get a track session in too.

And if all else fails I'm itching to have a clean, presentable show Puma (like what Joe used to be) that's not compromised and is just for road use again, so if Joe's not ready I hope to have something Puma shaped to get to FF in.
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Postby tuonokid » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:50 am

Hi Tom
Well done mate, looking forward to seeing you at FordFair again.
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Postby XAF » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:43 am

Good luck Tom, look forward to the updates!
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Postby TGPlayer1 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:48 am

Thanks guys :ok:

It's going to be a slow process due to money restraints, especially this month because the Civic needs an MOT and I owe my dad some money. However I've got a monthly budget and estimate I should have all the parts by the end of April - as long as I can source the correct brakes for the rear, as I'm going for a 253mm Focus set up instead of the ST170 kit, as I feel that's a bit overkill. May should see a donor car taking up another space in the car park and then I can use the warmer and brighter evenings of summer to get the work done!

That's the plan anyway...
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Postby tuonokid » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:28 pm

Hi Tom
Just 2 small points about the ST170 rears. They will fill out your 17" wheels more and you don't need to attack the rear beam with a grinder to stop the handbrake pulls fouling on it as you may with the 260s.
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Postby TGPlayer1 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:53 pm

I'm rolling 15s Barry, so there's no issue with filling out, and if there is fouling then I'll work it out.
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Postby tuonokid » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:06 pm

Oh sos Tom I thought you were on 17s.
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Postby TGPlayer1 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:14 pm

Well the first lot of parts have arrived in the last few days, and it's safe to say the girlfriend was not happy :lol: Something about not having enough money or whatever.

Anyway at least it's a step in the right direction :ok:
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