My Puma 1.7, more than a year on (A works in progress)

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Postby tuonokid » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:17 pm

Hi Dan
I assume the first part of your wish list is on this photo here where I found the only rot on the front end of my scrapper.

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I also assume it's missing from yours with your engine config so if you can give me some dims I can cut it out for you and you can repair it off the car. The handbrake holder plate should be ok just again give me some dims and I can cut it out. As for the jacking panels, not sure what you mean, but if you mean the panel through which you can see the underneath of the chassis no they are still available new from Ford and shouldn't be used for jacking.
Are you going to Fordfair because they are free to you with free delivery or if you want you can come up here and take the lot for nowt if you want.
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Postby McCloud 85 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:54 am

Hi Barry,

That is indeed the bulkhead panel i'm after.. believe it or not even with mine configured the way it is the bulkhead panel remains completely intact. The issue I have is for whatever reason someone has attacked it with a hammer and flattened it beyond belief. So I think the easiest way to repair this and the lip above is to graft in a new panel neatly.

Will get you dimensions of both the handbrake and bulkhead panels. Unfortunately I don't have a trailer I can easily lay my hands on and I missed the trailer licence cut off by a year or so (now you have to take a test to be able to tow). But yes Ford Fair is definitely on the cards again so that would be perfect, I will bring some cutting discs to replace your burnt out ones!

Yes think we are on the same page with the 'jacking points', sills and those panels are a no no with a jack.. shame the people who have worked on the car didn't know this.. and even the floor pan itself!! More bodywork to correct at some point. We can still get those hollow framed panels from ford still, even today? Only ask as we are now some 15 years after last production.

Thanks Barry :ok:
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Postby tuonokid » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:18 pm

Hi Dan
For the new panels contact James (XAF) as he has the finis codes for these left and right and if you've got a decent parts guy at your local dealer he should be able to get those for you from Germany I think. There is a photo of one of the panels on this thread somewhere if you want to look back as I bought one side for when I eventually see to the rust on my VIN no.
Also just to clarify the bulkhead panel I will cut out for you is rotted just below the lip but at least it's the right shape for you to do a repair off the car which should be relatively easy.
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Postby McCloud 85 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:20 pm

I'll have a look back through and double check the panels. Sounds about right though. That's fine as long as the rust isn't horrendous then a small repair is fine, I would imagine most by now would be a little rusty! I'm thinking I may take the majority of the bulkhead panel as it may give me a chance to mock a few things up prior to grafting into the car.
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Postby XAF » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:34 pm

McCloud 85 wrote:Source of the post I'll have a look back through and double check the panels. Sounds about right though. That's fine as long as the rust isn't horrendous then a small repair is fine, I would imagine most by now would be a little rusty! I'm thinking I may take the majority of the bulkhead panel as it may give me a chance to mock a few things up prior to grafting into the car.


Hi Dan, are these the bits you need?

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Postby McCloud 85 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:38 pm

Yes! I've just spent an hour or so going through this thread (some great work Barry!) and saw the photo of one. But yes both mine are crushed and it's obviously going to be easier to replace both once I've panel beaten the floor pan back into shape.

Do you have the codes by any chance?
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Postby XAF » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:33 pm

McCloud 85 wrote:Source of the post Yes! I've just spent an hour or so going through this thread (some great work Barry!) and saw the photo of one. But yes both mine are crushed and it's obviously going to be easier to replace both once I've panel beaten the floor pan back into shape.

Do you have the codes by any chance?


Sure! It's 1012780 and 1012781. £25-30 per side from memory. My FRP was the same hence why I replaced them. Well, I say "I", it was more the body shop and it was a pig by all accounts!
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Postby McCloud 85 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:23 pm

Perfect James thank you very much. Oh great I'll look forward to that job then :lol:
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Postby tuonokid » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:25 pm

The welding's easy just drill out the floor from above and plug weld it's getting the old panel off that will be fun.
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Postby McCloud 85 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:50 pm

Did you use a spot weld removal drill bit or just a normal HSS bit? I've always used standard HSS bits to drill out spot welds but recently used a friends spot weld removal drill bit and it was pretty dam effective.
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Postby tuonokid » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:04 am

Hi Dan
TBH I've never used either as I thought it would just muller the bits so I just attack the spots with my grinder or dremmel with the diamond tipped bits. I have thought of buying one of those spot weld bits but the spot welds I come across always are bigger than the circles you see and the drill bit doesn't look big enough.
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Postby tuonokid » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:45 pm

It's MOT time again so on the list of jobs I had to do was fix the horn as it sounded like an asthmatic donkey so taking out the headlight seemed the easiest way in (as I have no airbox) Took off the horn and bracket put an earth on it as it's only a live feed to the horn, took off the silicone sealant on the adjuster screw (the blob on the photo above the holding bolt) and then kept adjusting it an eighth of a turn in and then out till it sounded ok again.

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Next job was to de-rust the rear brakes (I did the fronts last week)
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I'd just about finished the car ready for the MOT and my son arrived wanting a hand to put some headlight bulbs in his KA (what a faff!) which ended up being 2 headlight bulbs and two broken front springs so the rest of the afternoon ended up stripping the suspension on his car ready for new springs tomorrow. With a bit of luck I'll finish his car tomorrow and get the Puma tested in the afternoon
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Postby Robyorks » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:13 pm

Need we ask if it passed mate?
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Postby Wild E. Coyote » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:48 pm

If THAT puma didn't pass, there would be very few cars left on streets (given the apparent criteria that need to be met) IMHO 8-)
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Postby tuonokid » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:09 pm

Thanks for that Sinisa, that's very kind of you. Well I failed to take the car for it's MOT today as I spent half the afternoon putting the new springs on Andrews car but at least the pair of springs were less than £18 so that was a result.
Oops Rob sos I missed that you had posted :-)
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Postby tuonokid » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:41 pm

Well the good news is it passed today with only one advisory for an offside front wishbone but that's not a problem as I have the two new ones ready to go on (Thanks Ben).

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Moving out of my drive the suspension/steering sounded terrible but soon settled down (new coilovers on the front) and I can report on the brief journey that the coilovers on the front actually work as opposed to the lowering springs which just went coilbound. I don't have to swerve to avoid potholes or low manholes anymore which is a blessed relief. I will just have to monitor the front tyres now to make sure the inner wing flanges aren't scraping on the tyres. The coilovers also feel a little bouncy but they are on their softest setting so when I get some miles on it I'll be able to stiffen it up if needed.
I also have a few little jobs to do on it over the next couple of weeks. The rubber "hat" I put on over the bonnet switch has disappeared so I have the door open symbol illuminated on the dash, I need to wire in a live supply to the drivers Recaro and the headlamps need polishing and clearcoating (if it can be done).
Oh, nearly forgot, my brakes were not too good on the way to the MOT station so I kept applying them every 50m or so. They were better when I got there but I think I need to take the pads out and give them a rub on my doorstep to get rid of any rust particles that are on the pads face.
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Postby g-whizz » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:33 pm

Good news mate, not that there was much doubt, indeed, I feel slightly affronted on your behalf by the advisory :grin:
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Postby tuonokid » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:11 pm

Cheers Greg, I think that advisory might have been advised before so it's ok, really :-)
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Postby Robyorks » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:33 pm

Good news indeed Barry, though I would have been shocked if it failed...

Any plans to fit coilovers on the rear?
If you can drive over man hole covers with them I reckon ill have to start saving my pocket money :wink:
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Postby rnnicol » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:12 am

Hi Barry, good job with the mot, how are the recaro's, have you noticed a big difference when driving. The reason I'm asking is, I've got the std leather seats, but I think the recaro's look alot better.
I think I may start looking for a set., .. good to see the progress, keep up the outstanding work.
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Postby tuonokid » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:28 am

Cheers Rob. No plans to fit coilovers to the rear as the rears not bad and I'm too tight to shell out for new ones. The front is a revelation after the cheapo lowering springs though, although I think you know that already.
Cheers Richard. I've had Recaros before on my MK2 RS2000 and they are some of the most comfortable, supportive seats you can fit, if you can find some, get some and you will not be disappointed.
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Postby Cork Puma » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:58 am

Excellent set of photos and restoration.

Would rather a set of those alloys on my own Puma.
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Postby tuonokid » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:41 pm

Cheers Ken, yeah my son found those on Ebay at a bargain price. They are BSA and I'd never heard of them before but really like them.
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Postby TylerB » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:41 pm

Good job on the MOT Barry :-) . And damn, I allways thought it was not recommended/unsafe to drive with only coilovers on the front. I might try the same thing, since a lot of knocking is often cause by the rear coilovers and their stupid upper mountings. I really think the back is ok with only lowering springs and decent top mounts. Makes me cry because I already bought new front Sachs standard absorbers which I planned to run on lower springs. I really liked the front end with the coilovers on though. Arghhh :)
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Postby tuonokid » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:13 pm

Cheers Tyler :-) I can't see any problem with having coilovers on the front and normal struts on the back as long as the spring and damper rates match each other as the coilovers are just struts with adjustable spring platforms. I haven't had the chance to do any more driving with mine as I'm not taxing it until 1st April but once I get some mileage on it I'll report back with my thoughts and any adjustments I've made. I can understand your frustration with the knocking on yours as I had a similar problem with the standard front struts with the 40mm lowering springs but mine was more of a shattered spine when it went into a pothole!

Anyway been buying a few more bits for mine to address a few issues

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It's great having a Son as now I get bought Xmas and Birthday presents that I really want or need. So for my Birthday last week he bought me this Sealey lowline Jack which is perfect for lifting the front of the Puma :thumbs:
I also bought a headlamp polishing kit and various grades of wet & dry and then lastly cleaned and re-oiled my cone filter and I'm going to run some cataclean through the car as I've still got an inefficient cat and the car's running a little lean.
If that doesn't work I managed to find a 200 cell sportscat at not too dear a price on Ebay but it's another welding job for me if I do.
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