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Post by tuonokid » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:35 am

Hi Stu
I've been there to watch the Westfield speed series and at the same time there must have been a TVR sprint as well. It was a real hoot watching the more modern high powered TVRs trying to make it around especially where we were standing (the bottom 180 deg bend). I can't imagine how difficult it is in the wet.
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Post by trublustu » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:39 am

It was fun.
terrifying.. but still fun.
It sort of reminded me of blazing around the derelict steel works site on an old motorbike we `shared` back in the day.
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Post by tuonokid » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:43 am

That must have been an old Honda 90 or Yammy 80 :-)
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Post by trublustu » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:27 am

Back and settled now from a huge trek to Snetterton (not made much easier by no less than two closures of the M6 on the way home..
It was the first round of the 2017 Javelin Sprint series.
So with my camping gear and helmet all packed I gave my new rig it`s biggest test.
I found it took a few stops to get the car just balanced on the trailer.
But I have now found it`s `sweet spot` with no snaking and the steering not feeling too light.

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There`s tons of campling at Snetterton and we really spread out..
The gazebo thing is a Khyam pop up type affair and one of the best camping purchases I`ve made in years..

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So, onto the competition...

This was my first visit to Snetterton and a sprint not the ideal way to learn a track..
It`s a quite long track (3 miles) with twelve, quite different, corners. Very tricky..
I would certainly come back here for a trackday.

There were one practice and six timed runs, I spent the morning getting a feel for the track and working on lines and braking points.
In the afternoon, I started to push the limits.
And I found at least one of them.
On the second run after lunch I tried not backing off through Hamilton. The fifth turn, a fast left @75mph
I might have got away with it on a trackday with properly warm tyres, but not on a sprint.
Big spin onto the grass and that run over.
Now there`s another car coming! So you need to try to get going and beat it to the line to save screwing up the timing.
So off I went...
Now I knew my mate had gone down to the final corner with his cameraphone so I barrelled into the last complex from the Bomb hole, through Coram and round Murrays. Going faster than my brain told me was right.
Here`s a vid from his photo`s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hsI_q8Jm0M

Lots of fun, but not exactly fast..
I had my camera on and this was the one run that didnt record!
The sound and picture quality of my chinese cheapocam is awful so I`ll not be posted the others.

I went faster with each run all day and shaved nearly 5 seconds off my first run to my fastest time of 2:31.30.
This time was good enough to get me second in class.
Only the Pumesta had me!!

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This was always going to be a place that the wee Puma would not be able to keep up with the big boys (there was a 458 Speciale there amongst other turbo`d exotica)
Overall I came 65th out of 75. (Nothing like a long straight to negate any skills in the twisties!)

With the sprint series allowing us to drop two results this year, I always figured my overall result here would yield few points (it did) so will probably be one I discount (Croft is the other power circuit)
So, with this in mind. I kept my brand new Toyo R888 SG`s in their little hidey hole.
Driving on my trackday tyre of choice. The Dunlop DZ03G`s which are quite hard and wear well, but take an age to warm up.
The Toyo`s are realy REALLY soft and will wear by looking at them.
So I want to save them until the rounds where I am competitive...
They`ll be on for the next round, which is Blyton Park on Easter Sunday.

Overall a good day (The car behaved well and only wants for it`s splitter. Could have gone better with it)
I`m looking forward to the next round. (No Pumesta at this one)
So a class win and at least 15 places netter overall is my target.

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Post by tuonokid » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:44 am

Well done Stu!
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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:43 pm

And nice write up, as always!
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Post by Brian' » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:04 pm

Sounds like you had fun Stu! Nice work, keep it up :grin:
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Post by Puma Babe » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:10 pm

So sad I missed this, I did Snetterton in the wet last year, would have loved to see how much better I could do in the dry. Well done on getting the trophy. Roll on Blyton :)
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Post by trublustu » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:39 pm

Next Tuesday I have what is probably my most eagerly anticipated trackday so far..
I am at Brands Hatch, driving the GP circuit. Cannot wait..

Now the car behaved perfectly well at Cadwell and Snetterton, so major surgery is not nessesary.
It only really need bit of making pretty in the sunshine this weekend, (and a ply splitter cutting/fitting)

So last weekend I just swapped my plugs.
Sounds simple, but...

When I`d unwrapped the car after winter, condensation had drenched the engine. And as it ran okay, I`d just gone with it.
I knew the plugs were just what was in when I got the engine (looked okay so I left them where they were)
I decided to check it over and stick some shiny new sparkers in there.

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The spark plug wells were full of the crud that engines collect. (no oil, :thumbs: )

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As I removed the HT leads I was not happy to see them fall apart in my hands.
One of the connectors was actually rusty ant two fell off the leads.

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They are not exactly top quality and I doubt they ever gave me a power advantage.

Quite the opposite if anything. :roll:

So I`ve fitted a quite new looking OE set (and matching coilpack)

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I quite forgot to get some pics of the plugs.
But there was nowt wrong with them.
Interestingly, they had a standard type of electrode, I`m sure they were the wrong ones!
Either way, there`s now a set of NKG Platinum`s in there now.

With solid wires booting them up...
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Post by trublustu » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:13 am

Last August I managed to break a little bone in my foot, ending my season on track.
In September I recieved a call from Motorsport Days to tell me I`d won a free trackday.
Great, except for the foot!
One of the options was any 2017 UK trackday with Javelin, so I took that.
When Javelin released their dates for this year I was straight on the phone asking for the highlight trackday of the year.
An OPL at Brands Hatch on the GP layout. (RRP £350)

That trackday was on Tuesday, and is right up there with the best trackays so far.
The circuit is fantastic with fast tight corners and astonishing top speeds.

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Whether or not the car was better for new HT leads is difficult to tell. But it didn`t skip a beat.
What definitely made a difference was the refitting of a simple 9mm plywood splitter.
The car feels planted at high speed with more traction and grip.
I really recommend this mod to anyone serious about their pumas handling. Especially on track. :wink:
235 miles at 5-7000 rpm and no issues right to the chequered flag :thumbs:
apart from the glue coming unstuck on a headlight and finishing a set of brake pads.
Which are hardly issues...

I have relocated my video camera and the sound is a lot better.
Here`s a video of one of my quickest laps (1 min 54 secs) followed by a 70mph save at the start of the next lap.
(looks great at .25 speed!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z58wrWTssDY

The video doesnt show much other traffic, there were some ultra exotic machinery there.
One couple turned up in a Mclaren to drive their Radical!!

Car behaved perfectly and came home unscathed
Which I`m glad of with a quick turnaround for Blyton Park on Easter Sunday for Round 2 of the Javelin Sprint Series.

New pads fitted and tyres swapped over from my trackay rubber (Dumlop Z03G`s) to my all new sprint tyre (soft compound Toyo R888`s)

I`ve sprinted at Blyton every year since I first went on track.
My best time so far was 1:18.21 (I think) so I want to beat that.
With my new box and super sticky tyres I might just pull it off...
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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:31 am

Nice job of catching that rear end break away! It was at some serious speed, so congrats there!
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Post by siju » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:54 pm

What a save! Is it full (opposite) lock if I see correctly?
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Post by aaron86 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:17 pm

Cars looking fantastic and great save!! Hopefully will get out on circuit with you soon
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Post by trublustu » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:09 am

And so we move on to the Javelin Sprint Series, round 2 at Blyton Park...

The car behaved perfectly at Brands, and the prep promised to be simple.
That dream didn`t last long...
I Threw a set of possibly the cheapest front pads I`ve ever fitted (QH brand at £20!) and lined up my old Dunlop wheels ready to have the Toyo Softs fitted.
I felt a little sick when I got up the following day to find they`d been nicked.
Bastards. I had 3 full sets of wheels and wanted tyre options on each. (Dunlops, Toyos and Michelins)
That`s that idea out of the window.
So I had to throw my softs on the Mitchelin wheels and settle for 2 rolling sets for now (though I want the road tyres for Monsoons and emergencies)
I may put them on a set of 9 spokes I have lying around. (undercover)

There was also the small matter of the seat.
The car gets scrutineered at a sprint (unlike a trackday) and I knew they were not keen on my seat to start with.
After the battering it took at Brands it really did look rough.

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I have a pair of these seats and figured that a swap would sort that out.
I had noticed the seat getting less comfortable and found out why.
The bottom of the seat (proper old school tech this) was splitting.

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Dangerous is an understatement.
Even in good condition, It is not the safest design I`ve ever seen...

Heres a screenshot from my Youtube homepage.
Just look how far I was sinking into the old seat at Brands (on the right)
Compared to an identical seat in good nick at the sprint a week later.

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Safer with the better seat, but the lower driving position was really good.
I`ll be putting this, far more suitable seat in, before it goes out again.
It should position me low down, like in the Brands pic.

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Anyway. The Sprint.

The day started lovely, but the weather man had wanrned us that it wouldn`t last...

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And then it came down..

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I still went out to hone those skills..

I really do need to think about how I set my own targets for these things.
My car is the most developed (fastest) it has ever been.
But thinking I could trim a specific amount from my times was a little naive.
I`d wanted to beat my pb (1:18..) and gain 15 places from last year.

I did of course win my modest class (by a couple of seconds too)
As far as the lap time is concerned, I was almost 3 seconds SLOWER than my pb
But, I finished in 52nd place overall, compared to last years 65th.
http://www.javelinsprintdays.co.uk/spri ... tion_id=29

So I got the result I wanted, just not the time.
The reason. The track was damp and cold and we got only 2 timed runs before it rained.
Competition over by 11am!

Javelin very sportingly put up the times from those that carried on through the rain as a standalone set of unofficial results.
There were 76 cars competing overall. 52 carried on after lunch.

I did more than a bit better than in the dry...

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12th out of 52. TWELFTH!!
I am praying to every deity I can think of for a monsoon at a sprint before the year is through.

Here`s a link to a vid of my fastest wet lap (last run)
It was great fun..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4fBdoSQWCs

Five weeks untill it rolls again,
I got a couple of little ideas too..

By the way. The pads were fine!
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Post by tuonokid » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:15 am

Well done Stu
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Post by red » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:25 am

8-) that's a really good result :grin:
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Post by trublustu » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:29 pm

Well I tried to not mess with the car.
But I had a `gotta tidy that up` itch to scratch.

When I cut back the slam panel, I had to keep quite hefty chunks to hold the top of the radiator.
As all the weight is carried by the rad subframe.
With a stripped radiator (no ac, no fan) the hoses would hold it in place.
This would obviously be asking for trouble and I`m sure the hoses would split.

So I chopped out the rest of the slam panel and rad mounts.
Then, chopped up an alloy numberplate to knock up two simple brackets to stop the radiator vibrating too much or jumping out of the lower mountings.
Here`s a before and after pic.

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I now want to get rid of the over-engineered lower mounting/subframe.
I`ll probably use 1.2mm alloy sheet and fabricate a cowling which is strong enough to actually hold the rad (and channel airflow too)

I can`t leave it alone, even when I try..
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Post by trublustu » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:28 pm

It`s been a short while since I updated my build thread, and there are a couple of chapters to tack onto the ongoing saga..
I`ll tackle them one at a time..

I have got around to fitting the new(ish) bucket seat.
After the driving experience at brands Hatch, when the split seat base dropped me about three inches in the car, I decided i wanted to get my seating position `just right` with the new seat.
After a bit of rough measuring I decided to use the Cobra seat basess that the current seats are mounted on.
problem is the base isn`t constucted symetrically, and to get the side mounts on, The seat would be a couple of inches off center (of the steering wheel)
I fitted the base and plonked the aseat on to see how it worked.
It didn`t, being that far off line was uncomfortable.
So a bit more measuring up and I worked out how to make the mount wider and more central.
So the sidemounts would be flush, and solid too!

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I purposefully made the extension plates a bit long, thinking i can set the seat up before cutting and save myself a lot of swearing..
Then I test fitted the seat and drilled the base and cut it to size so my seat was just so.

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The seat is better place than ever before.
My knees are no longer fighting with the steering column...

I am not sure how I will get on with the steering wheel position.
It feels a bit far away.. I`ll sort this with a spacer or deeper dished wheel if it bothers me.

Next stop Round 3 of the sprint series...
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Post by trublustu » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:40 pm

And so onto the Javelin Sprint, round 3 at kendrew barracks. (Just off the A1 near Stamford)
This was a leap into the unknown as it was the first event Javelin had ever run there.
One of the other competitors posted this telemetry map showing us what we`d been up to

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It`s a pity we didnt have this beforehand!
The place is a working airbase and there were extra forms to fill in and men with automatic weapons at the gate we used to get in!

We had almost perfect weather and some buildings with a briefing room, canteen and loos.
Which was a pleasant surprise. Some airbases have nothing but a butty van and `pod` toilets...

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The surface was, as I had expected, a bit on the awful side.
tarmac, but really old tarmac (except the runway part)
So, I had fitted my Dunlops to use for most of the day, With the soft Toyo`s hidden in my boot until the last couple of runs.
My sneaky plan worked a dream, and swapping onto proper sprint tyres shaved 3 seconds off my times.
And a second class win :grin:

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So with three rounds done I am winning the class overall.

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Now the rocket propelled Fiesta has been bumped up a class, making it a straight fight between myself and a pair of mx5`s
I`m skipping the next round (best 6 results from 8 sprints) As it`s at Croft, which is a power circuit and I`ll score very modest points in the overall championship.
Plus I have a Club trackday weekend coming up quickly and don`t want to overstretch myself or the car.

Very happy with the car, which needs just the steering wheel looking at.
It`s further away than on my road car!
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Post by trublustu » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:27 pm

So onto the Trackheads Blyton weekender.

Our trackday group found an event run by Mazda on track, aimed at clubs just like ours.
They were running three different layouts (Outer, Eastern and Inner)
I went for a session (AM/PM) of each, Giving the car and myself a breather over the GP of a trackday..
The Trackheads group brought 2 Pumas, 2 Clios, 1 Escort & 1 Saxo
Only two worth picturing though..

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With the organisers being Mazda biased, I find their days are full of mx5`s. Which is a good match for the Puma
I had a couple of epic batles with a few. Made mincemeat of a good number of `em too..
One or two supercharged beast were a class above I must admit ;p

Saturdays outing was the morning session on the usual Outer circuit layout.
It`s the track I`ve driven the most (this was my 8th visit)
The conditions were absolutely perfect and I had the longest scrap of the weekend with a nice mx5, half a dozen laps on my bumper then half a dozen on his.
We were obviously going for it, but sticking with trackday etiquette regarding all other cars, and not one blue or black flag was waved at any time!
Excellent fun..

I was just messing around on Saturday
Sunday was what the weekend was all about...

The Eastern Layout at Blyton is a totally different animal to the Outer.
Whereas, on the Outer after the first bend you just blast off past a concete blob, round a long bend towards the chicane at 90mph.
Much more giddy on the Eastern. There are 4 differing corners in quick succession leading to a never ending right hander before rejoining the Outer layout at the chicane.
It`s ace!!
And suits the puma down to the ground.
Not one car there was faster through the technical stuff than mine.
In a few weeks time I`ll be competing on this layout in the Javelin ASprints. I`m hoping to embarrass a good number of `faster` cars...

The Inner is a very seldom used layout.
And has a a different start point (at the end of the first straight)
It follows the outer till the end of a regular lap where it carries on and runs the opposite way through the technical section of the Eastern.
Hooning time..
I ended up running out of brakes at 4:20 while having a showdown race with my mat to see who took the `fun cup` home with them.
I was in front too..

Never mind, next time ;-)

So enough about my fun.

The car...

Well it didn`t skip a beat. I only popped the bonnet to prove to someone it was basically what Ford had put in there.. (and make sure nothing was boiling up(it wasn`t))
I have to say, The car really held it`s own at weekend.
I was hunting an Evo all day Sunday, but he kept coming in..

This is on the final straight on the Eastern. GPS speedo read 101mph

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The splitter looks a bit wonky. need to look at that.

I have definitely learnt something along the way to where the car is today.
That is, that tuning for big power on a trackday is a waste of money and energy. Plus, it`s going to give big expensive problems.
Driveshafts, gearboxes, bank balances. All breaking around me..

Instead of spending big bucks on engine mods I`ve put most money and time into handling and weight.
The only car in our group that had me was a clio 172 with standard engine and thousands spent on the suspension.
And we both rag our cars all day without headaches..
Here`s a shot of a (different) Clio 172 (track prepped) chasing me into a corner and needing the 40 bhp I give him, to catch up again.

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There were loads to choose from of him behind me.
He couldn`t get past for about 8 laps.
When I did let him through.... he came off! lol..

I did just short of 225 miles, each session was 75 miles
and upon inspection afterward i found I have finished off ALL my pads.
I`m a little surprised that I used so much of the rears, but I recon running cheap pads on the front and half decent on the back may have unbalanced the brakes.

Plus I finished off a set of tyres..
The overbraking on the rear was causing a lot of lockups on my N/S rear. (L-H circuit)

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It has half a dozen flatspots and is down to the wire in one place.
I need to service those brakes and fit more suitable friction material

and find some more tyres...
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Post by red » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:39 am

8-) great write up :grin:

It does sound like lots of fun and your Puma certainly pulls it's weight.
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Post by gingerdave » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:46 pm

I have a question.Tell me why you spend a lot of time and a fair amount of money on prepping your car and then skimp on brake pads?First thing I always did prepping any competition car was decent fluid and pads then locating the engine and gearbox to stop it moving around too much(does look like you are having fun though)
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Post by trublustu » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:37 pm

Hi dave.
As a rule I dont.
But after a trackday early this year, with a sprint the following week, I needed front pads asap!
I had been running Brembo pads all round, but all I could get over the counter were generic `QH` brand. (at £20!)
I found them okay (I`m not into haring into corners stamping on the stoppers, more of a controlled in, hard out style.)

It`s all a big old learning curve, running on the economy pads was as much an experiment as all my other mods.
I actually found them okay on track (not as sharp as Yvonnes` Puma which is running 1144`s, just `okay`)
The balance thing is no good at all though. and they wear fast.
There are some Mintex 1144`s on the way (1155`s have a huge waiting time and my next sprint is just a fortnight away)

So it`ll be super grippy fronts and generic rears.
Also, I will need to check the restrictor valves are working correctly.
If none of that works, It`ll be time to dig deep and buy a bias valve.
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Post by Puma Babe » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:05 pm

Fantastic write up Stewart. it was a fun weekend, hopefully the practice and getting the curve grande a lot faster will pay off on the next round of the sprint. :pinkeye:
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Post by trublustu » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:24 pm

Thanks Yvonne.
If Brands GP was the circuit of the year so far, this was the trackay.
I had a great time, the two day thing worked well, with both Pumas coming home in one piece..

The sneaky practice run was good too.
The fifth round of the sprint is round the corner and with other cars in both of the Puma classes there`s trophies to go for...

On the subject of the sprint series, i should mention that the fourth round was last week.
I skipped this particular round as it was close to the weekender, also as it was at Croft.
I knew only modest championship points would be up for grabs. (Long, power track where bhp wins every time) and as it`s 6 from 8 results. we`ll be discounting two rounds.
This is one of mine, I will be doing the remaining sprints and dropping my worst. (probably the Snetterton 300, another power track)
So now the MX5`s and I have all done 3 rounds and were at the mid point in the season.
And I`m class leader :-)

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I`m hoping to stretch that lead on the Eastern. four cars in B4 this time.
Including another Puma :-)
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