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Re: 2.1 Zetec Turbo - The Yella' Fella'

Postby FirstPuma » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:23 pm

still waiting to see the finished fella :?:
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Postby gingerdave » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:48 pm

Does this car exist??need some pics and Dyno printouts come on!
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Postby Xparty » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:24 pm

Pretty sure is this car, right? 8-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91-vZDGfEhU


Looks and sounds, awesome! :grin:
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Postby red » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:19 am

That looks like the one 8-)
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Postby gingerdave » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:15 am

Not that interested in driving along in traffic jams....Where are the Dyno charts ......come on.
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Re: 2.1 Zetec Turbo - The Yella' Fella'

Postby Davedrave » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:59 pm

Hi Guys,

Apologies I;ve not updated this in a while, been very very busy with things.

We have had some running issues with the car and all sorts of different noises etc. and now the car is currently at LMS being sorted out.

I can report that the car made 370bhp @ I believe 1.8 bar??? I will have to double check that. It absolutely flies and puts a massive smile on my face whenever I drive it! I've already taken the smile off an M3 so who knows whats up next. We are looking into some small changes with regards to downpipe and intercooler to see if we can take it up to the 400 mark but who knows.

I have the printouts but I think they are in the car at the moment so when I have him back, I'll upload them along with some videos too.
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Postby KoNLaR » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:04 pm

Can't wait! 370BHP in a Puma must be insane!
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Re: 2.1 Zetec Turbo - The Yella' Fella'

Postby Davedrave » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:44 pm

So finally I've got round to scanning the dyno printouts from Redline tuning and here they are!

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They've turned out sideways which sucks, not sure how I can rotate them but you guys get the idea.

The car is currently with Lightning Motorsport. One of the pistons has cracked and the cylinder has two scores all the way down it. A new piston has been ordered from JE and a new block on its way too :cry: missing the car to say the least but got some plans for it next year - new intercooler and 3" downpipe should see us through the 400 bhp barrier.
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Postby warrenpenalver » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:16 pm

Shame about the piston. what caused it?? det?
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Re: 2.1 Zetec Turbo - The Yella' Fella'

Postby Davedrave » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:29 pm

We don't actually know what caused it, Chris said he thinks it might be heat related but he's not sure. It was running fine for 3000 miles then all of a sudden one day started making a tapping noise and that was it - piston cracked and two loves scores all the way down one side of the cylinder it was in. Whether we will ever get a full diagnosis as to what it was that caused the issue, I don't know.
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Re: 2.1 Zetec Turbo - The Yella' Fella'

Postby gingerdave » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:33 pm

Maybe a mapping issue,If it were mine I would like to know the cause or it could happen again....Have you done many trackday in it or is that the result of just road use?
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Postby Davedrave » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:25 pm

It might be due to mapping, we have noticed the car running very rich and everytime it starts up there is an awful lot of unburnt furl that decides to scatter itself across the driveway.. I would like to know the cause too but if Chris is unsure of what had caused it then what else am I to do?

I have run the car on track once and that was at Ford Fair, albeit the car was still being run in and was limited to safe points within an inch of its life. The car was fine on the journey there and back too so I doubt its anything to do with that? I have run the car myself in low boost map as my daily for a few weeks and performed beautifully, love driving it! Such an experience and atmosphere with the car whenever its on the road. I doubt this has had any major effect on the piston? I guess time will tell.
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Postby Davedrave » Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:44 pm

I'm hoping these videos are going to work in the way that I intended! As promised, here are some videos of my 2 son's having a play on the car on a private road. Wind noise may be an issue and I believe there may be a naughty word or two in one of the videos!





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Postby Davedrave » Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:52 pm

I'm having trouble embedding these videos, would somebody tell me how to do it please? Thanks :ok:

Cracked it now, hope you all enjoy :grin:
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Postby KoNLaR » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:08 pm

Loving the sound of the exhaust!
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Postby demonskull13 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:39 pm

love the yella fella great popping sound turbo style
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Postby Davedrave » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:04 pm

Thanks for the feedback guys! Glad you like it, I know it puts a smile on my face everytime I step in it
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Postby CherryVimto » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:52 am

Sounds lush! 8-)
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Postby Dwighet » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:59 pm

I want a Dad like you... lol..
Great stuff mate..
Must of broke your heart when you found the cracked slug..
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Postby Davedrave » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:45 pm

Thanks for the comments!

It did indeed break my heart, I just want the thing back now!!! It's had a lot of teething issues since we got him back before Ford Fair, constant issues with the running of the car and as I said it's clearly over fuelling big time I just want all these sorted so I can get out on the road and enjoy the car.
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Postby moondustka » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:54 pm

Mapping is a big part - you can build the best setup in the world but if the mapping is off, the engine life will be reduced or the chances of parts failing will be much higher.

Also, the longer a tuner spends mapping, the better it will be (or should be, obviously).

I think in your case Dave, if you know it's running rich then there would have been a chance of bore wash whilst running in and the mileage afterwards - but not saying that any of this is necessarily why it's failed. There's also a chance the parts could have failed, of course.

You mention about your intercooler - both Errol and I have had that one and without being rude, it's poo. At those kind of horses I bet your intake temps are up around 50 degrees plus. Which in turn might be why the graph (370hp) waves whereas lower down (300hp) it's nice and smooth. It could be the high intake temps that's caused the piston to fail. My advice on this, fit the biggest one you possibly can - with your blower you won't notice any extra lag. You want to get your intake temps as close to ambient as possible.

I've always found that finding and trusting tuners is difficult.

Unfortunately these sorts of cars tend to have a lot of teething problems - I'm still ironing out/improving some of mine from 3 years ago.

You'll get there I'm sure :)
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Re: 2.1 Zetec Turbo - The Yella' Fella' (Videos and Dyno pg7

Postby Davedrave » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:19 pm

Hi Guys,
Wishing you all a Very Happy New Year
After a nice Xmas break, Chris is now in the process of putting my engine back together, with the new parts having been purchased and delivered.
Will be picking it up in a couple of weeks from Lightning Motorsport. Then it will be a bit of time spent running it in again and then getting Chris to manufacture a nice new 3" down pipe and fit the biggest inter cooler we can fit !!!

All the best for 2016, looking forward to Ford Fair again this year. See you there or maybe before

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Postby Davedrave » Fri May 13, 2016 12:23 pm

Well not been on here for awhile as the car has still had a huge amount of issues
Car came back with 4 leaks
Drive shaft seal damaged on gearbox :roll: :roll: was not damaged before ?
Thermostat housing :roll: Fixed back with silicone ?
Cam cover gasket re used and leaking Why not fit a new one ?
Then and this is the piss take Leak from sump since day one Turns out it needs a new ladder frame To those that don't know It's the top section of the sump
Cracked and chipped ? Leaking
Can someone on here tell me what I paid Little Man Syndrome all that money for ????
Wouldn't trust him to service my roller skates as even that would be way out of his league :P
Now with someone who seriously knows what they are doing So when that bill comes in I will be passing it on for a refund !! :grin:
What goes round comes round !!
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Postby moondustka » Fri May 27, 2016 6:16 pm

Got some it sorted yet Dave? Who did you take it to after LMS?
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Postby Davedrave » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:12 pm

Some bits are sorted now, car still doesn't run very well so need to look into it further to see what is the cause of the rough running. There are a few little bits that I want to get sorted too like get the speedo sorted out.

The majority of the oil leaks are all sorted now which is a positive.

Also, just testing the water here and thinking aloud.. How much does the community of Project Puma think this car would be worth resale?
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