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Postby xnbradley » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:42 pm

Hey there...

Thought I would start a project...

So I bought #032 two weeks ago and to be honest... I have not stopped driving it... you know that feeling you get when you are going on holiday... some where you have always wanted to go and you have sorted everything out and everything is packed... you have left a key with the neighbours and you have arrived at the airport and you have just walked through security... and you can finally forget about everything back at home... the bills... the DIY... work... and all you need to do is relax and wait to board the plane... that nervous excitement... care free place is what I feel every time I open the door of my FRP and turn the key... I am hooked...

So before buying #032... I bought this... a 2001 Puma 1.7 'Black Edition... the exterior is a bit rusty and part of the front bumper is missing... but the interior is almost as new... and it is the actual black interior as apposed to the very dark blue that is in the FRP's...
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Now #032 was in excellent condition mechanically and exterior was ok... but the interior was a little worn,,, scratches and scuffs on door cards and panels... so I had an idea... why not swap the interiors over...
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I now have all four rear panels in my lounge ready to have the colour parts swapped over...

Once I have got myself some proper tools... I am even going to swap the dash boards over... so then all the interior in #032 will be as new and black... good thing the wife and kids are away this weekend...

no doubt I will keep you updated... by the way... I have never done anything to a car before this... I am going to learn stuff as I go... with probably allot of help from all you people...

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Postby red » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:54 pm

:grin: hows it going?
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Postby xnbradley » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:34 pm

Hey there...

I feel a little overwhelmed... just been looking through Barry's project on here... think I am well out of my depth... having removed everything out of the back of the FRP... it looks like I am going to have to sort out some rust on the inside... which I haven't got a clue how to do...

I really want to get rid of all the rust... get it completely treated... sealed and protected... so it lasts a long time... but it seems like too big a task at the moment... so I am just gonna focus on the interior..

The guy I bought it from up in Aberdeen owns his own Motorsport company and I don't know for sure what he has done to it and what he has changed... I think he used it to do some road rallying in Scotland..

oh well... I have a few years to get it sorted... I have been recommended a really good coachwork guy based locally in Odiham... think I will take a drive up to meet him next weekend and see what he thinks... I kinda want to be involved and get on with stuff that I can do... and leave the bigger stuff to him...

one day I would love to pay a mechanic to remove the engine.. take it completely apart... clean and service it and then put it back together again... but I would want to be allowed to work along side him and learn/assist at the same time...

better get some sleep... puppy wakes up at 6.30am..

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Postby XAF » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:30 am

Mornin' Xn.

If you want an idea how bad FRP's rust, and how difficult / expensive they can be to fix, check out my thread.

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What you going to do with the original interior, that could fund a lot of the work you need to do
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Postby xnbradley » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:02 am

Hey there...

Just read through ya project... seems that I have a similar conditioned car.., I will get some photos up of the worst bits of the Rust to see what ya think...

I am simply putting the old dark blue door cards and panels into the Black Edition... so I can sell on to raise money for the FRP..

It's gonna take me over a year to be able to afford getting it all sorted..

oh well...
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Postby xnbradley » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:13 pm

So... I can't be in denial any more... this is the bad news...

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Postby xnbradley » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:43 pm

its not good is it?

looks like a jack has been used in the wrong place and has pushed the floor pan up where the front mats go...
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Postby tuonokid » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:42 pm

Hi Mate
That panel that's been bent is still available as a new part as both James (XAF) and I have recently bought one as for all the rest of the rust shown it is repairable as sills and maybe???? rear wings are now being produced by expressed panels. There is a lot of metal/rust that wants cutting out and replacing but it's all do-able if you find a good welder. The one place you need to check out is the chassis rail around the location of the rear beam mounting (where the brackets with the four bolts are). If this is rotten it's more difficult to repair as it's thicker gauge steel and you have to be careful not to knock the rear axle out of alignment. I would say if the car is a genuine FRP it's worth doing but you need to keep the FRP door cards and interior.
If you want to have your engine refreshed Chris (El Dude) on here offers the service you want at a reasonable cost.
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Postby xnbradley » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:54 pm

all back together with the new back panels...

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I have to focus on the house now... family back soon...

hope you have a good week...

oh yeah... I am gonna de-fuzz the carpet and see how it comes up... may keep it...

Thanks for all ya help... no doubt there will be more questions...
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Postby xnbradley » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:56 pm

just been looking online at how to remove dash board... looks a nightmare...

Plan B... swap back the door cards and panels and keep the very dark blue...

will just see if I can polish out some of the scuffs...

what a waste of time... well I learnt allot...

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Postby ArtfulHussy » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:38 pm

The dark blue (I think the official trim colour is alchemy) standard in all cars i think? You could look at getting some good condition door cards from another puma that isn't a black or thunder and using those instead?

I might be wrong but hopefully someone will be along to confirm or correct!
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Postby xnbradley » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:38 pm

Hey there...

I think you are right...

Alchemy - Dark Blue - 15/06/1997 to 15/09/2000
Midnight Black - Black - 15/09/2000 to 11/12/2001

I have been looking at some photos on the forum and it appears a few people have different colour dash/cards/panels...

Looking at XAFs photo in his project it kinda looks like the card is Midnight Black and the dash is Alchemy... could be just the light in the photo...

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definitely going to fit the original Alchemy cards/panels... just have to look into a good way of removing scuffs etc...

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Postby XAF » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:49 pm

xnbradley wrote:Source of the post Hey there...

I think you are right...

Alchemy - Dark Blue - 15/06/1997 to 15/09/2000
Midnight Black - Black - 15/09/2000 to 11/12/2001

I have been looking at some photos on the forum and it appears a few people have different colour dash/cards/panels...

Looking at XAFs photo in his project it kinda looks like the card is Midnight Black and the dash is Alchemy... could be just the light in the photo...

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definitely going to fit the original Alchemy cards/panels... just have to look into a good way of removing scuffs etc...

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Evening mate. Mine is all totally original, so Alchemy dash, door cards, steering wheel etc, complete with grills in the rear panels (although it now has the Ford Platinum sound system to go with it even though the FRP's technically never had it...)

All the early Puma's (up to September 2000) had Alchemy interiors, that included all the FRP's. Mine was one of the last with the donor car being built in April 2000 and converted in November 2000.

Pictures can be confusing. I've often seen the millennium interiors being referred to as black, but they're not, they're Alchemy too as Barry and I can attest to, as we've both stripped a set down and dyed them midnight black to match our later cars. For me, that's my black on not the FRP!
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Postby xnbradley » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:55 pm

Hey there...

I presumed that it all would be... must be the light in the photo... I think I am gonna have to just limit myself to do one thing at a time... seems like too big a job to do when I look at it all... Novembers task is going to get the air box mod done...

No doubt will be back for advice...

Does the platinum sound system have a separate amp or is it all in the head unit?

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Postby xnbradley » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:04 pm

i meant no offence by my comment by the way...

this is all very new to me and I realise that I want to be where you and Barry are but don't want to put all the time... effort and money... I gotta learn to stand... let alone walk before I try running...

difficult though as every time I start her up I just get carried away...

apologies for my newbyness... I'm sure it will go in time...

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Postby XAF » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:30 pm

xnbradley wrote:Source of the post i meant no offence by my comment by the way...

this is all very new to me and I realise that I want to be where you and Barry are but don't want to put all the time... effort and money... I gotta learn to stand... let alone walk before I try running...

difficult though as every time I start her up I just get carried away...

apologies for my newbyness... I'm sure it will go in time...

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No offense taken, not at all so no worries!

The Platinum Sound has a separate amp and crossover in the boot:

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The amp is the silver bit, the crossover is behind the carpet. The rear speaker pods are different too with a sub in the lower section in line with the grilles. It doesn't sound that much better to be honest!
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Postby xnbradley » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:55 pm

Hey there...

From the photos above... do you think that it will pass an MOT?

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Postby tuonokid » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:36 pm

Depends on how much you pay the tester :-)
Seriously no it shouldn't pass the MOT as the corrosion to the sills is pretty bad but at least they can be replaced now.
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Postby xnbradley » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:12 pm

I know that it is almost an impossible question to answer... but was just wondering how much do you think it is going to cost to get it through the MOT...

Rough idea... are we talking £100s or £1000s?

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Postby tuonokid » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:27 pm

Well a pair of sills is £250 apprx plus work to the bottom of the rear wings as it's an FRP plus if they're not already done the 4 short brake pipes. Then other sundry work to the inner sills and floors I can't see you getting much change out of £1,000 to get it done properly. I should have a look at my earlier post on here regarding the rear beam mounts as if they have gone it's a lot more work.
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Postby xnbradley » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:17 pm

Hey there...

Just had a look at the rear beam mounts... I think they look ok... what do ya think?

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Postby tuonokid » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:26 pm

It's hard to tell from that photo, you could do with a few more from a bit further away but at least there are no holes showing apart from the factory ones.
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Postby xnbradley » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:11 pm

I think I'm just gonna have to take it to a mechanic and get his advice... need to get it through MOT in December otherwise I may as well just sell it... I use it everyday so can't have it off the road...

don't think I thought this through very well... oh well,.. at least my wife gets to say 'I told you so' ...
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Postby tuonokid » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:23 pm

Yeah it's a bit of a shame to be using an FRP as a daily driver now seeing as there are so few left but at the end of the day they are a 16 yr old Ford along with all the corrosion that brings. I'd think about buying one now but I don't fancy another year lying on my back with an angle grinder and welding torch.
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Postby xnbradley » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:35 pm

Yeah... I know what you mean... I am more than happy to put the hard work and the hours in... it's just a shame that The MOT is not due next summer... would have time to do research and do one section at a time...

I guess I need to decide if I want to invest the £1k now and enjoy the car... or whether to call it a day and sell it... huge decision... especially as I am well and truly addicted to driving it...

I will get in contact with a mechanic and the local coach works guy and see what they think...

Thanks for ya advice and help...
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