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Postby xnbradley » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:04 pm

So... adapters arrived today...

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wrong size... very annoying...

Anyone know the size of the Ford adapter for the outlet of the PAS pump... is it UN/UNF/SAE or is it BSP?

I need to order the right one first thing in the morning otherwise I am going to miss my chance to get it ready for the MOT... cutting it fine...
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Postby xnbradley » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:46 am

So... after an evening of research... I have found out that I need a JIC 6 (AN-6) to M16x1.5... will be phoning them tomorrow am and asking if they can deliver Saturday...

in other news... two more additions to the family...

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Postby xnbradley » Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:27 pm

So...

I went to a local hydraulics and pneumatics place and explained the problem... I even took the old pump in... we cobbled together a cou0ple of adapters and came up with a solution... not pretty... but it is just to get through MOT...

Fitted it today...

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and... it works perfectly... for the first time in four months... I have PAS... feels like driving a very different car now... very little feedback from the road... it is going to take some to get used to it...

MOT tasks
1. Offside Rear Sill Welding - Done
2. Fix PAS System - Done
3. Sort out Emissions - Cataclean the day before the re test...

I am very happy...
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Postby moondustka » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:30 pm

Bit too late to the party here... but

Can't understand why you had so many problems. I used an M16 x 1.5 AN6 Adaptor into mine, wound it all the way down with some Loctite 5400 thread sealant. Never had any problems :?
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Postby xnbradley » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:56 am

A bit late... ya right... oh well... all sorted now...
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Postby ElDude at Allison Automotive » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:36 am

xnbradley wrote:Source of the post Looking at this picture of them... they may actually seal round the top rim of the threaded female socket and not round the top of the silver ring...
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Just counted the thread on the adapter (4) and then the female socket and 4 turns would not block the hole... the male thread may not go down far enough to occlude the fluid feed hole...and so filling the space around the high pressure release valve and then traveling up into the pipe...

I think that this may be the problem... I gotta find the right adapter now that will allow me to attach the Goodridge pipe to the pump... probably knackered both pumps though... oh well...


The pressure seal is inside the nut.. 8-)
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Postby xnbradley » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:31 pm

Thanks Chris... finally working now... took me a while to get there but for someone who knows almost. nothing about cars... I feel good about fixing the problem...

was also wondering about my next task... are there any cheaper callipers that I could you temporarily whilst I get my Alcons sent up to you for refurb?

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Postby ElDude at Allison Automotive » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:23 pm

probably not without changing out the hoses too...

how about a day visit?

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Postby xnbradley » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:03 am

So...

just had a call from the garage... failed again... even when they have it red hot... still fails the emissions... and that is after a cataclean last night...

Also where I have sorted out the PAS... the rack is leaking loads of fluid everywhere... they have stopped the test so I don't have to pay anything...

but as the MOT runs out today... alas... #32 will be off the road for the foreseeable future... not happy...

maybe I should cut my losses... what was I thinking... I know nothing about cars...

Oh well...
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Postby red » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:51 am

Oh no.. that's unfortunate, why has it started leaking?

I guess the high emissions is either sensor or cat related.
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Postby xnbradley » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:44 pm

Hey there...

I think it is leaking because it has been driven for who knows how long with no fluid circulating and has probably knackered the seals... probably need to get a new rack rather than replace seals...

Gonna have a discussion with the wife over dinner tonight as to what we gonna do... sell it and move on or to clear the garage out and start the reaoratuon... good thing I have the other puma to drive ...

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Postby tuonokid » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:10 pm

Hi Christian
Have you established where the rack is leaking from? If the top part of the hose has been replaced it's likely that the whole hose has been replaced so it could just be where it goes into the rack that's leaking. That should be a lot easier fix than replacing the rack. As for the emissions was the car just hot because it had been ticking over for a while or did they run it at 2-3000 rpm for a couple of mins to get the cat really hot. It might also help if you take off the MAF and give the two tiny springs a good spray with some carb cleaner.
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Postby xnbradley » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:41 pm

So I am gonna give it one more try and then probably give up...

gonna get the car up on stands tomorrow... totally clean the bottom of the car... add some Power Steering Leak Stop to the fluid and see what happens...

I am going to add another cataclean and look to clean the MAF as suggested above...

rebook it in for Monday and get them to get it piping hot before test... if it passes... then great... if not... anyone want to buy an FRP... only needs a little work... :-)
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Postby red » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:45 pm

That's the spirit :D
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Never give up! You'll regret it when it's gone.
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Postby ElDude at Allison Automotive » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:02 pm

I think people don't realise these sport cats just don't last as long as standard cats... even the standard 400 cell per inch cats used on everyday cars need replacing now again after 10 years or so... most of the aftermarket FRP systems use a cheap tiny 100cpi cat which is a joke, there's just no way you can get the dam thing through an emissions test properly without 'cheating it' through...

My new system uses a 200 cpi catalyst which still needs warming up to get through, but once warmed up it passes very comfortably.. :idea:

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Postby Wild E. Coyote » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:54 am

Well, every cat needs a warmup to be effective....!
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Postby xnbradley » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:08 pm

Today is my last stay of execution...

fortunately I had the day booked off to sort Christmas out... I stead I am sorting the car out...

I thoroughly cleaned the area where the high and low pressure hoses go Into the rack... started the engine... turned the wheel a little and then had a look... the fluid was clearly coming from the adapter where the low pressure fluid comes out of the rack...

So... I drained it all... took it apart and discovered why it had been leaking...

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No seal on the adapter... either at the top or the bottom... I even checked inside to see if the seal was in the rack...

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nope... no seal... gonna use some PTFE around the thread and use a rubber seal from the other wrong adapters that I bought previously...then add some power steering stop leak and it should be all ok...

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Regarding the emissions... gonna carry out an 'Intalian tune up on the way to the garage... 100-50 below red line for 5 mins... get it stinking hot...

MOT is at 4.30pm... this really is my last chance before taking her off the road... which I really don't want to do...

Forgot to say... the guys at the garage said that the welding that I had done was the best bit of welding they had ever seen... I think I chose a good welder to restore the car...

Will let ya know...
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Postby tuonokid » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:14 pm

Good luck Christian.
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PS no need to rev it too hard and you might overheat the cat which also stops it working as I found out on mine.
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Postby Wild E. Coyote » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:55 pm

Just be careful about the seal; it should be oil resistant. Perhaps there was an oil seal originally, but it melted away
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Postby xnbradley » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:44 pm

So the seal held...

unfortunately the high pressure Goodridge hose didn't... split and sprayed fluid all over the engine compartment... I think it must have been nicked by the accessory belt early in the day before I clipped it back in position...

So it's staying at the garage and I'm currently sat in McDonalds waiting for a lift from my wife and 3 boys... not a good day... she is gonna kill me...

in other news... it still failed the emissions test... even with supreme fuel... cataclean and a 44K thrown in for good measure... still hitting 0.4-0.5%... target is 0.3%... needs a new CAT...

So... where do i get one from... how much are they? how quick can i get one?

any help would be great... ASAP...

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Postby Wild E. Coyote » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:38 pm

Contact El Dude here (Chris Allison) who can help you out with a new one. Since it is a FRP the new item is needed and a regular one won't fit (which could be obtained from IanG)
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Postby Bentleya » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:29 pm

Go to a friendly MOT centre and get them to stick the emissions stick up another cars exhaust.
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lol :lol:
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Postby ElDude at Allison Automotive » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:06 pm

xnbradley wrote:Source of the post

in other news... it still failed the emissions test... even with supreme fuel... cataclean and a 44K thrown in for good measure... still hitting 0.4-0.5%... target is 0.3%... needs a new CAT...

So... where do i get one from... how much are they? how quick can i get one?

any help would be great... ASAP...

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