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Postby PumaJay » Tue May 24, 2016 7:20 am

Cheers. Its something I've wanted to do ever since I bought the car 8 years ago. Being on track just highlights the lack of power, the car is great and a match for anything through the bends but I lose out so much on top end. Going up the hill along Park Straight the car wouldn't accelerate past about 105mph, A bit more grunt is now needed.

Even a standard ST150 or ST170 engine would be a massive gain.
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Postby moondustka » Tue May 24, 2016 7:32 am

I can't remember, is the ST150 engine a cast iron block?

If it isn't, that might sway it for you due to weight.

Both engines will bolt to an IB5 box also - the ST150 a little better.

However the ST170 comes with a 6 speed box that may be quite beneficial. I know that's been said to hold circa 400hp, the IB5 as we know is 250ish.
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Postby PumaJay » Tue May 24, 2016 9:44 am

I have no idea if it is a cast iron block to be honest... I've done very little research on them.

The main reason for looking into this is because ive been offered a cheap engine!
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Postby moondustka » Tue May 24, 2016 9:28 pm

ST150 engine is a duratec so should have known really, alloy block.

ST170, badged as a duratec but is really a zetec, cast iron block. Fiesta ST engine has inlet and exhaust same way as 1.7 puma so that may also sway your decision.
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Postby tuonokid » Tue May 24, 2016 9:30 pm

Just look at Errols post for Duratec info, Ford also do a 2.5 now :-)
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Postby siju » Thu May 26, 2016 10:30 pm

Or keep the current engine and stick a m62 eaton supercharger which you can get for 200-300 pounds? I think that with that setup you can see 200+bhp without a great cost.
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Postby PumaJay » Fri May 27, 2016 12:48 pm

siju wrote:Source of the post Or keep the current engine and stick a m62 eaton supercharger which you can get for 200-300 pounds? I think that with that setup you can see 200+bhp without a great cost.


Not interested in messing about with the 1.7. Seen too many turbo/supercharged builds now and they dont really deliver much performance.

2.0 Duratec is 100% the way im going to do this.... Just need to get a few things in place.
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Postby Brian' » Fri May 27, 2016 3:30 pm

Really interested in how you're going to approach this Jay! Keep us updated :-D
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Postby PumaJay » Fri May 27, 2016 3:33 pm

Brian' wrote:Source of the post Really interested in how you're going to approach this Jay! Keep us updated :-D


As always I will.

Its something thats been in my mind for a couple of years now but I've just been enjoying the car for what it is. Now though... my 1.7 leaks a lot of oil and is in need of a cambelt change. As much as love the little 1.7 unit I reckon the time is right for more power
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Postby moondustka » Fri May 27, 2016 5:42 pm

You'll need to the tune the 2.0 and give it more punch as I'm not sure you'll be that impressed with only several more horses! But perhaps you've got that covered 8-)
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Postby PumaJay » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:58 pm

moondustka wrote:Source of the post You'll need to the tune the 2.0 and give it more punch as I'm not sure you'll be that impressed with only several more horses! But perhaps you've got that covered 8-)


More of everything is required I think. The car is starting to get a bit tired and the last 8 years abuse is starting to show so a freshen up all round is needed. My wife and me are currently looking at buying a bigger place with double garage so once that's all sorted and we're settled I'l be putting the car away for a little while and making sure it gets some much needed TLC.

I have quite a list and an ideal spec that I'd like to build it up to. Its basically just replacing everything for something better than I've already got.

As for the engine I think 300bhp is a healthy number to aim for, the main focus will be on drive ability. I've driven some badly converted boosted cars and you can't predict what they are going to do next.
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Postby PumaJay » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:29 pm

Little update.

I didnt like the way my tow strap hung down at the back of the car with half the rear bumper removed, was browsing for a metal fixed one and then I thought... why buy when I can make one. So I had this knocked up at work. Made from a 2" washer and a piece of 5mm Steel, will be painted red or yellow and should look much better once fitted.

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Postby moondustka » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:37 pm

Been nicely welded then?
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Postby PumaJay » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:24 pm

moondustka wrote:Source of the post Been nicely welded then?


Yeah done a really neat job with it. we made a test one and it lifted a 2 tonne gearbox without breaking so it should be perfectly good.
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Postby moondustka » Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:06 pm

Very nice 8-)
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Postby PumaJay » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:22 am

Thanks,

Hoping for good weather this weekend so I can maybe start a few jobs that I need to sort out. First up being to remove the exhaust and heat shields from under the car. The exhaust started to blow at Cadwell Park so I've got to take a look at that and maybe have a flexi section welded into it. The heat shields have just deteriorated over time and are literally just hanging and flapping around. I've got some DEI Gold heat reflective to put in its place.

Putting plans in place for my turbo engine build as well, trying to gather as many parts as I can before I even think about taking the engine out and rendering the car useless.
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Postby moondustka » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:11 pm

Get as much as you can before taking anything apart - good move. Also, get a plan and stick to it. Often things take longer if you move the goal posts! I do that sometimes :lol:
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Postby PumaJay » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:07 pm

Goal post are always moving with me and this car, the wife and myself are currently on the hunt for a larger house with a double / large garage hopefully by the end of the year we'll have found somewhere, moved and be settled in. Then the good stuff can really begin. I can't bring myself to do it down the side of our current house!

Parts gathering is already starting, the car is going to have a full strip down and pretty much ground up rebuild built to my perfect spec. I won't comprimise as I'l be in no rush to finish it. My Edition 30 Golf will need a power hike though I think to keep me satisfied in the mean time!
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Postby moondustka » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:59 pm

Sounds good to me :-)

I'm terrible for moving goal posts!
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Postby PumaJay » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:25 pm

Same,

I'm trying to be methodical with this and work out what I need and when I'l need it. Luckily I've made some very good contacts through my work that can supply a lot of the parts I'm going to need at a discounted price. I'm currently scanning through a catalogue marking out various aeroquip fittings that might come in handy.
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Postby PumaJay » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:27 pm

Got the car back up on axle stands and set about removing the exhaust to figure out where it was blowing from, didnt take long to work out why, the flair that holds the flange on has completely sheered off so it wasn't actually sealing anymore.

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Spoke to piper about this and becuase I've used the car on track days then I've voided the lifetime warranty... once again a warranty that really isnt worth the paper its printed on!

So to that end im having a new section of exhaust made with with a small flexi section to take out the vast majority of the vibrations that have obviously caused this to fail.

I also removed all the under body heat proofing, it was all pretty much hanging off and rattling against the exhuast and I'm going to be replacing it with gold heat reflective tape, will hopefully have that little job done on Sunday.

Next step will be to get a few small rust spots on in the drivers footwell sorted out.
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Postby Brian' » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:50 am

Looks like that exhaust went through a rough life! Pity that Piper said you void their warranty. A new custom made section is always better though. Looking forward to see the update, Jay!
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Postby PumaJay » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:29 am

Worst part is that part of the exhaust was replaced not even 12 months ago with a piper part!

I've now got a new genuine crank seal, 2 new cam seals & new rocker cover gasket to fit, will be getting all this done very soon. I'm hoping it will cure the leaks that have appeared over the last 12 months.
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Postby PumaJay » Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:35 am

Exhaust has been repaired and beefed up a bit and its now much stronger than the original piper design, much better quality tig welding done by one the lads at work.

Will offer it up for a test fit this weekend then heat wrap it before it goes back on.

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Decided to order some new tyres yesterday as well. The Marangoni's ive used for the last 18 months have been great but the shoulders are basically slick now and I dont feel confident driving on the roads with them. I was going to get the same again but decided I see how these perform.

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Will hopefully be with me next week and I'l give them a bit of bedding before heading to Blyton Park on the 24th for a proper work out.

Last night I made a start on using gold heat tape under the car, the original Ford heat shields had basically fallen to bits and had started to rattle on the exhaust. 5 rolls of heat tape should be enough to do the exhaust tunnel and side of the fuel tank.
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Postby gingerdave » Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:41 am

Blimey hope it doesnt. rain,coz you wont be going round many corners those.
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