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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:11 pm

If it looks like this https://www.google.hr/search?q=honing+m ... 80&bih=649 it is normal. Cylinder walls are NOT absolutely smooth to a mirror image
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Post by FastLee » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:27 pm

The marks are slightly faded, and in one of the sides of the cylinder top end, i feel a little edge when passing the fingernail right at the top of the area where the piston ring reaches.

New piston rings could solve the issue for some time but i am now waiting for another engine to put the car running

Then i will refurbish this one top to bottom probably with some machining and fitting new liners.
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Post by FastLee » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:05 pm

I have been thinking about this.

For a future refurbishment of my engine block.

Machining for 1,5 or 2 mm and new liners may be the option.
Cast iron liners?

How thick is the nikasil coating on the original block?
Can't it be done with a 0,5 machining and 0,5 oversize piston rings?
Or is the block too soft for that?

Just questions ;)
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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:50 pm

Nikasil is way to thin for that. The only viable option is to resleeve the engine with cast iron liners. Once that is done, and they are machned to the spec and honed, you can use that Honda NPR set without any problems. But whoever will be doing it must be very good at it; or you will warp the block and then it is goodbye.
The oversize story won't work as you can't get any, let alone oversized pistons
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Post by FastLee » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:58 pm

Wild E. Coyote wrote: Nikasil is way to thin for that. The only viable option is to resleeve the engine with cast iron liners. Once that is done, and they are machned to the spec and honed, you can use that Honda NPR set without any problems. But whoever will be doing it must be very good at it; or you will warp the block and then it is goodbye.
The oversize story won't work as you can't get any, let alone oversized pistons
That's what i suspected.
At the price that 1.7 Engines are beeing sold @ UK i will probably get one or two more.

This remembers me the issue i had in the past with the 1.3 TU2J2 engine from the 106 Rallye.
The liners are crazy espensive and very rare to find. So the option was to go for a 1.6 Block.

Once again, thank you for your help.
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Post by FastLee » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:23 pm

While the engine is on its way i am having a few people over here recomending the swap for a 2.0 Zetec from a Mondeo

I think it's the Silver Top.

Over here, swaps are a bit of a problem because os police operations and MOT's

But what could be the changes necessary to fit this engine?

Does the Puma gearbox fit?

Engine mounts wil need some fabrication i presume?

Just for curiosity

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Post by FastLee » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:04 pm

So ... directly from UK to Portugal...

Another engine ... and just in case.. a gearbox

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Now it's just a matter of time :grin:
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Post by FastLee » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:27 pm

So ... the engine that i got from Uk already in place and started. Still some work to do ...

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Post by FastLee » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:47 pm

So .. My Puma had some progress made today.
Radiator fitted, a few other bits and bolts. It ran quite good until it reached the termperature to start the cooling fan. Everything looked fine. Heater inside blows hot air. So the Heater control valve should be ok.

This 40 quid engine has already some mileage, but for what i need for now it's okay

I have a bug that i think that i figured it out already. I got no temperature info in the instrument panel.
The engine that i have running now is a MHB. The car had a MHA
After checking the online parts calaogue it seems thar in the water assembly under the coilpack there are two senders for the MHA and just one for the MHB. I think this is the problem. Changing this will not be hard. What is a little more complicated is to pass the cables in some tiny spaces under the inlet manifold. Let's see if tomorrow i am in the mood for this.

Then, what's missing is to put oil in the gearbox and bleed the clutch. As i will need to replace the brake discs i probably will look for a big brake conversion from a 2001/2002 Puma

For now it's still in my initial budget for a fun car and with some cash for brake and fluids servicing. Then it just needs MOT and insurance, that over here can be as cheap as 200 euro per year or even less...

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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:41 pm

I don't understand why you need to route the cable? It should already be there? You just swap the coilpack carrier (the coolant exit from the head assy) with the one you had on your old engine and you are good to go.
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Post by FastLee » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:10 pm

Wild E. Coyote wrote:I don't understand why you need to route the cable? It should already be there? You just swap the coilpack carrier (the coolant exit from the head assy) with the one you had on your old engine and you are good to go.
Thanks for your reply.

As far as i have seen, the cable that came with my MHB engine does not have the conector to the temp sender but just the gray plastic plug to the temp sensor.

Today i bleed the clutch and pressure washed the engine bay. Maybe tomorrow i will solve the temp gauge issue.
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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:47 am

No, you misunderstood. You already have the necessary loom in the car. Swap it completely to the MHB engine. Also, like I said, swap the small housing that acts as a coilpack carrier and you are OK to go
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Post by Matti9 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:01 am

Agreeing with the above, you should have the necessary cablework already. I just put in my MHA engine three weeks ago, had the same problem (in my case a faulty sender, so quickly solved). We're talking about the upper part of the engine loom, which connects to your lower loom at the fender. It goes to the top of your engine, where at the side it connects to temp sensor (grey plug) and sender (black rubbery kind of connection, at loss for words here because I'm Dutch, sorry).
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Post by FastLee » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:34 pm

Hi. Thanks for the replys.

Yes. I just need to change that part of the loom in the engine and change the coilpack housing from the MHA. Probably tomorrow...

Yesterday i bleed the clutch and as it was sunny outside took it out from the garage to wash the engine bay.

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Later, turning the lights on, i started hearing a buzzer noise from the left headlight. Took it out and the leveling motor is jammed and the plastic gears are shredded. But worse than that, the wiring inside the headlight had the plastic insulator falling apart in pieces.

So today, i filled the gearbox with 75w90 oil and took more than two hours just to put new insulating material on the headlamp wiring.

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I just need to adress the temp gauge, probably tomorrow. and then it's MOT time :grin:
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Post by FastLee » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:22 pm

So .. Today was a big day.

As i suspected.. changing the engine loom would be a $&%&$% ... The loom is stuck behind the starter motor. Went to plan B .. added an extra wire connecting to the loom that goes into the car and connected to the sensor.. success..

It was almost done.. had the car running idle to check the temp gauge and it shut off... no starter signal.. no fuel pump. Looked around for the fuel cutoff switch but did not find it. Checked the fuses at the engine bay and one was blown ... Checked one by one the connectors i was fiddling before and after a few trials noticed that the speed sensor had water inside the connector. Cleaned it and good as new.

Fabricated a piece to hold the battery in place as the car just brought the battery box with the battery "floating around"

Repaired one of the front grill holders.

And here we go to MOT in the local centre that is known for beeing quite demanding. I had not much faith but got a surprise.

I was very pleased to get the green paper just with one annotation... the exhaust pipe is old and rotting. MOT until January 2019

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So i am now at around GBP 900 for everything.. Car, Registration, One Year Tax, Insurance for 6 Months, MOT, Engine from UK and a few more bits ...

Just need now to change oil and filters but...

IT RUNS!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by red » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:00 pm

8-) congratulations!!
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Post by FastLee » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:45 pm

Just driving around ... :-D

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Now i switched to my S60 ... It feels huge ...
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Post by FastLee » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:21 pm

Well.. starting to get a few bits for the car

Already got the Wheel cap that was missing, and two extra wheels.
Got also the Tow hook that was missing and a Factory Radio from a Fiesta Techno. At least this one has a working CD player.

did not have much time to drive around and i still need to do brake servicing. It brakes very well but the Discs are worn.
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