Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby PumaNoob » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:13 pm

You can keep the viper, that will be awesome with a longer cold air feed to the front, but you might need to put a cold feed where TyeBoi has his, cut into the side of the bumper, where it wont interfere with your intercooler set up. I think it might not look too good if i put it further up, im thinking to get a square plate made up and put it to the side of the grill.
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby clarkie » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:22 pm

yea dude i am already making the custom vent anyway. not havin it where tye has his tho ill have mine further up in the actual bumper, thinkin of cuttin the vents out of the new fiesta bumper where the foglights go and using that. should be a shorter pipe to the filter then too so im hoping will draw more air. will see how i get on tho when i start the new front bumper as ill have plenty of room for intercooler once thats on :)

and yea dude personally id go with the square thats what ill do. or ill go with a standard font and trim the plate down to size lol
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby PumaNoob » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:33 pm

I want to see this fiesta puma bumper mix, those fiestas have a bigger grill then the puma, and the number plate sits higher, so that would be both cosmetic and practical mod. You need to hook me up with these vents and stuff, i want a cold feed directed at my intake manifold.
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby TyeBoi » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:44 pm

just get masses of motorsport piping and cut holes in your front bumper or grill to vent them to the locations you want.

a track puma on pumapeople has an intake in the grill part of the bumper. also you must of seen bumpers that have been hole sawed where the number plate should be to aid cooling.
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby clarkie » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:49 pm

we will get there dude dont worry just get yourself a fiesta bumper thats nakard and ill make it fit for you :) im doing mine soon hopefully so you can wait till iv done mine if you want to see how it looks first. altho it wont be higher as it need to be fitted lower to suit the lines of the car to start with and yes the grill is bigger so you could mount the cooler in a diff location and further forward giving you more room. makinf the side vent a working one is the easy bit. only thing you would need to do it get it sprayed ...
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Postby TyeBoi » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:51 pm

apparently hes errol is very good at spray painting with rattle cans so i think he wil have that covered! will be interested to see this!
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby clarkie » Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:51 am

yea i do have a compressor but i dont have spray kit for it so i might try and get a cheap spray kit and try that with the 2pac paint an see how it comes out lol

and i cant find one of them intercoolers for love nor money.
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby clarkie » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:40 pm

you figured out what clutch to go for yet? im thinkin i might as well do this upgrade while im doing lsd and clutch rather than have to do it again in a few months :)
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby PumaNoob » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:44 pm

Well I know it's against the advice of alot of people on this site, but I've been made an offer that I couldn't refuse. I happened to meet a guy who runs a company that makes custom clutches! He has just developed a clutch kit that he thinks can handle the power. It's a 5 paddle clutch, with uprated pressure plate, and he basically said I can be the test pilot of this kit to see how much power it will take, & if i do manage to max it out, he will fit a new higher power clutch kit for free! Now you can't argue with that! He's asked that I don't disclose the company name or price for now, until all testing has been done, so I'll have to respect his wishes on that, but I'll be fitting the kit tommorow hopefully, & testing will commence! I'm very excited about the prospect of a custom made clutch kit at a really affordable price. Pics and vids to follow
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby PumaNoob » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:38 pm

I got the clutch yesterday, and it took me 6 hours to fit it on my own :? ! Just thought id include some pics, found Jackos "How to" thread most helpful, i usually do things in a different order, but was nice to have a read through for bits id forgotten about! Like a fool, i drained all the gearbox oil, and then knocked the bucket over on my drive :x
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby clarkie » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:35 pm

aww man you has to tease me lol my clutch is gone and need mine doing now and you get this lol ask him if he wants a 2nd tested and ill fit it strait away lol
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby PumaNoob » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:28 pm

Good day at the Pod yesterday, bit of a headwind, so times not as good as they could be, but im pleased with what i got in the end.
For those of you who dont really think my times are very good, just take a look at this Focus RS racing an Escort Cosworth. These have got to be two of the fastest production FWD road cars ever made in this country, and i dont know what mods, (if any) these have.

Ok, so what do you think will be the outcome of me racing a Sierra Cosworth? I asked the guy what kind of power he was running, he said well over 400bhp! Lets see shall we.

Lets just say he werent very happy with me :lol:
Heres a vid of me racing a Nissan Skyline, he beats me by 0.4 sec, my change from 3rd to 4th was too late, and i hit the limiter, so could have possibly shaved a fraction off that time.

Here was my best time, this machine i raced was an old Datsun, i think possibly a 240 or similar, with a tuned skyline engine, i was never going to beat his time, but im pleased with my time, thats almost a second off my best at Avon Park!

I got a bad time in this vid, after an AWEFUL start, this VR6 golf was getting some really good results. But just look how well i pull back after the aweful start, i think i could have beat 14 secs had i not totally messed this start up. :x

My paddle clutch still needs bedding in, if id have had more time, i really should have got my flywheel skimmed to get max contact, as the flywheel wasnt compltely flat, and i think i definately need an LSD to make the most out of my car now, but i think thats about it for this project, other then a rolling rd just to see what power im actually getting. Ive built, and mapped this car myself, so im pleased with the results, considering how much its cost me!
Looking at the car stats calculator, if my car weighs 1000kg, id need at least 200bhp in a N/A car to get a 14.1 1/4, so with turbo lag, id need more, so it will be interesting to see how much power ive actually got!!
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby Dal » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:08 pm

You had some great runs there! (except the last) Bet that put a few noses out of joint :lol:

PumaNoob wrote:For those of you who dont really think my times are very good, just take a look at this Focus RS racing an Escort Cosworth. These have got to be two of the fastest production FWD road cars ever made in this country, and i dont know what mods, (if any) these have.


Except the EsCos is 4wd, hence why the FRS got away quicker ;)
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby PumaNoob » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:18 pm

Ha ha, yeah mate, not many people interested in my car when i turned up, but after a few runs, alot of people come to see what i had done to it!
Except the EsCos is 4wd, hence why the FRS got away quicker

Wow, i didnt know the Escort was 4wd, i thought only some of the Saph cossies were 4wd!!

The interesting thing i was told yesterday, was a mk 3/3.5 fiesta, was running a puma engine, with 270bhp! It did blow up on the track, but im not sure if the people who told me were just confused, but it would be interesting to find out more about this car if it was a 1.7. I personally think it was probarbly a mistake, as the 2.0 silvertop is alot easier to put in that fiesta, and cheaper, and id have thought it would take more boost and make more power. But if anybody knows otherwise, would be good to get some info
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby Dal » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:21 pm

I know Toby used to run his track 1.7 Puma with a turbo at about 270bhp.
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby PumaNoob » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:25 pm

I take it you mean his second turbo puma?? I think his 1st was the owen developements puma, which wasnt very quick, but i heard from a source that the second project was a whole different animal!! Didnt think it was 270bhp though, id love to see that run! I could be totally wrong about that, but thats what i understood to be true from people ive spoken to.
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby yippeekiay » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:04 pm

Awesome runs. Car looks like any other Puma but not looking out of place with the apparently 'fast' cars. I so wish I'd bought that Turbo kit on here a few months back now.

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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby PumaNoob » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:19 pm

Thank you. A kit is really not hard to make up, the kit he was selling was not just a bolt on kit, it needed modification. I might get some bits together as a starter kit, and put it up for sale, it will get get anybody started, and then if more power is required, it will be alot easier to upgrade, as the basics are all there. Or i might go for a bigger turbo, with bigger wastegate, and sell my complete kit. Not sure what im going to do with my time now :-(
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby BlackKnight1982 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:28 pm

WOW thats some sick 1/4 times! The quick spool of that turbo and fwd your defiantly getting the jump on most people as for tobys puma 1/4 times and top speed runs are in the fastford hall of fame with a load of other pumas i will look later and post them on here later.
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby PumaNoob » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:42 pm

It would be good to see some other 1/4 times posted up, VVC mini just beat me in his tomcat turbo with a 13.9 sec 1/4.
Im going to try and get an LSD, then try again, hopefully ill beat a 14sec. I think my next project will have to be a bigger engine, i dont think my engine will take much more power without new pistons and rods ect, and i dont think my gearbox will handle much more either.
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby TyeBoi » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:16 pm

awesome man! bet your well happy with that!
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby PumaNoob » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:19 pm

Yeah mate, well chuffed!! A guy i met down there got a vid of me racing a BMW M3, remapped to 340bhp, (the guy driving the VR6 golf) and hes been kind enough to upload it!! There are no times on it, but theres nothing in it whoever won!!
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby BlackKnight1982 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:58 pm

Its performance ford sorry that have the hall of fame.
Heres the puma section.
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So a 14.1 secs 1/4 would put you top of the 1/4 mile but on your video you weren't hitting 100mph!!
This seems to be put in 0-100mph order.
I can't understand how toby's puma can do a 0-100mph in 12.33 secs put only posted a 15.59 sec 1/4?? Strange unless when he had the timing gear for the 1/4 on he might of been taking it easy on the clutch or engine.
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby clarkie » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:14 pm

so how good is that clutch dude and whats it gonna cost me... oh and if your sellin the whole setup you gotta promise me right now that you will ring me first and ill get you the money one way or another as you know im starting to source the parts anyway.

and i have the one thing your after lol the LSD :twisted:
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Re: Budget Puma TURBO Project!!

Postby VVC MINI » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:22 pm

Mate heres that ford festa turbo that blew up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNbGzX2uUgo
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