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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:25 am

Lack of updates asking for some advices would imply that the problem is solved?
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Post by raggamuffin » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:18 pm

Judder isn't as bad but still not 100%. RPM dipping and trying to stall hasn't been solved either. He said the engine sounds like the cams are the issue. He recommended a remap and maybe see if the cam timing needs changing.

I think taking it to Lightning Motorsport might be the best solution for both.

Also gained an intermittent and high pitched whistling noise at low speed and idle. He thinks it could be the idle air valve leaking. He made a papergasket. The previous one had old silicone blocking up the valve.

He's asking if the idle control valve has a specific gasket as it didn't come with one?

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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:36 pm

No special gasket, you can put in two O-rings for the openings or cut your own gasket if needed.
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Post by raggamuffin » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:26 am

He made a cut out from some brown paper assuming it'd work but it didn't. What else could the gasket be made from? He reckons that it must be this where the whistling noise is coming from. Idling when parked or driving at low speed and low rpm there's a constant high pitched whistle that becomes inaudible at higher speeds.

J will be fitting the door cards and struts on Wednesday. I'll ask him to try and sort out the whistle too.

Failing all that I'll have a word with Chris @ LMS and find out when he'd be free to look at the car. I'd probably have to take a days holiday to get the car sorted. Hopefully once and for all.

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Post by raggamuffin » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:39 am

When it came to installing the lambda he asked which one it was. I said I'd bought a generic 4 wire lambda as per J's recommendation. He said he never had much luck with generic sensors and recommended getting an OEM equivalent.

Are these the 2 types I'd need to buy?
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If this doesn't work then I assume it must be a timing issue then?

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Post by raggamuffin » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:43 am

Chris @ LMS said he'd get back to me about availability for next week. I hope it doesn't come to involving a 3rd mechanic at this point. With any luck the judder and the gearbox rattle can be sorted on Wednesday. Then everything is solved except for the bodywork.

If I did ever have to go to get any work or mods done at LMD I would have to book holiday time off work. It's a 2 hour drive so I'd probably have to book a local hotel if it was ever going to be a long job. Other than the remap I don't think anything else would need to be done by them. J is adamant the cam timing is fine.

I really hope it's a quick and inexpensive fix. After all this time and money - I just want to enjoy a working car at this point.

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Post by raggamuffin » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:24 am

J has asked me not to get anyone else to work on the car if he still is. He said the whistle is possible the induction kit or the idle air valve. Guess I'll have to wait and see on Wednesday.

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Post by red » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:42 pm

It's a fair comment from "J" if he's working to try and get it up and running, he probably does not need other peoples work in play at the same time.
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Post by raggamuffin » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:43 pm

True enough. My patience is just a bit all over the place at the moment. I'll avoid going to anyone else until this is fixed. I hope Wednesday gets the remaining 3 issues solved.

Got more parts today in the post. New headlight seals, new coolant header tank and a Sachs slave cylinder.

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Post by red » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:33 pm

8-) certainly looks the part if nothing else
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Post by raggamuffin » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:53 pm

Induction noise



Rough idling when parked




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Post by raggamuffin » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:54 am

Cars being looked at on Thursday now and not Wednesday. I don't mind to be honest. The situation isn't ideal by any means, but it's workable and that's the main thing. I mustn't grumble. At the end of the day, the delays in this project seemed unacceptable, and yet I could do nothing but accept them. Wasn't in a position to go elsewhere. We met once, for 15 minutes and he took the car away and got on with his life.

Can't say they've had it easy themselves, and I wasn't making life much simpler on myself on my side of things. Delays upon delays came and went, but I got the car back. There's work to be done, but it's served me nearly 600 miles. Had it been something major, I can't imagine I'd still be driving it

Is what it is at the end of the day. Now we've met several times, it turns out we get on really well. Hence I think there's been this almost miraculous turn of events where he's gone from inert to a seemingly explosive outburst of getting things done. His wife told me that she has every confidence in his ability to sort out any of the issues. He's a long history and passion for Ford cars and he's really set on fixing these issues. After all, this is his project, probably even moreso than mine at the end of the day. He's the one who's taken it apart and wants to see it performing as it should.

Neither of us can admit defeat at this point. Fingers crossed for good news.

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