Rear axle spacers

[Glenn_]

Ive got a pair of rear axle spacers for my pooma.

How easy are they to fit. I couldnt find a how to guide. Ive heard you have to mod the nsr abs sensor for them to fit??

Has anyone got any pics. Is it just as easy as removing the 4 bolts at the back then fit the spacer and then fit the longer bolts??

 

[quest63]

Sounds about right plus using the correct torque for the bolts.

You didn't say what size your spacers were? but some folks basically destroy the right angled corner on the passenger side sensor for 20mm and above (don't know if its needed for 10mm ones.

Alternatively some use escort estate rear abs loom.

You may find you cant get the abs sensors out of the back of the hub in which case you'll need iirc 32mm socket and big torque wrench to undo the hub nut and knock the sensor out from the front. Plus its wise to get new hub nuts.

 

[Glenn_]

Im using 20 mm spacers. Do the rear abs sensors not of plugs on that I can disconnect to feed the sensor through.

 

[Glenn_]

If you knock the sensor out of the backing plate/hub. Will I not damage the sensor?

 

[quest63]

There's a chance it will damage them but what option is there if they are seized in which is highly possible?

You'll have try again with the last but one post I don't know what you saying.

 

[adampuma]

Buy the racing puma rear abs loom from pumaspeed, this is what i'm having to do

 

[quest63]

Is it cheaper than the escort estate one ?

 

[adampuma]

No one seems to know where to find this escort estate rear abs loom?! I asked this a long time ago. If anyone can find one then i need it still!

 

[quest63]

I think Cherry Vimto has the exact part number but this looks like a likely candidate with its straight abs sensors

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-MK7-Estate-Fuel-Parts-Rear-ABS-Sensor-Genuine-Braking-Replacement-/331079513095?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AEscort&hash=item4d15e07407" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[adampuma]

Well if that does the job i will be a happy man should be able to get rid of my horrid abs ring creaking noise.

 

[russv]

Hubcentric spacers are a good alternative if you want an easier job, H&R do a 20mm set which bolts to the hub, then your wheels bolt to the spacer. I've used these kind of spacers for about 6 years and never had a problem with them. Use loctite threadlocker on the spacers bolts (I use blue (can be undone again), or you can use red which is permanent). I know you already have the spacers but I just thought I'd write this for people that are put off by the work of the axle spacers :lol:

 

[Wild E. Coyote]

There's a chance it will damage them but what option is there if they are seized in which is highly possible?

Mine were seized as hell, but did get them out using a puller. Took a small (1/4") socket #10 IIRC and put it against the sensor. Then used the puller shaft to point it at the socket. The legs captured the hub and started to wind the puller. You could hear the ABS sensor squeeking out (literally!). If I used a hammer or something similar I would have destroyed them for sure; they were practically welded in.
So half a turn - squeeeeeeek!
Stop and wait until the squeeek has stopped (meaning the ABS was pushed outside for the thread pitch of the puller). Again half a turn - squeeeeek! Slowly it was out. I made sure to use the largest socket (hence M10 as the outer diameter of sensor is 15 mm) to have the contact area as far out as possible cos that was where the friction was. If you hammer it in the middle there is very good chance you'll kill it.
After the sensor is out, use some sand paper to clean the mounting hole and afterwards you will popu it out by hand.
Hope this helps,

 

[quest63]

A good tip indeed but I wouldn't have thought many people would have a puller to do this.

I have personally drifted out an abs sensor twice with a small socket and its been ok both times.

 

[Wild E. Coyote]

A puller is not expensive in Croatia, it must be dime a dozen in UK :?:

 

[Glenn_]

Can you not cut the abs wires then rejoin them? Then the abs sensor will be left alone but just pull the complete abs wiring out and feed it through the spacers.

 

[quest63]

I heard one person mention cutting and joining the wire but I don't remember how it worked out. You would also still have to modify the sensor as some people do by hacking away at the plastic corner of the sensor which might not be possible while its still in place bolted to the back of the hub.

Myself I wouldn't cut and join wires or hack at the sensor. I would get the escort estate loom and use that.

Give the nuts on the sensors and the sensors a blast of wd40 for a week and see if you get lucky getting them out.

 

[CherryVimto]

A guy at work has an Escort estate.

Maybe I should write his reg number down, so we can use it to find the correct rear loom ose:

I should have the receipt from when I bought mine. If anyone wants the part/finnis number I'll have a look for it.
I bought mine from Ford as it was actually cheaper than buying one even from Euro wrong parts.

 

[Glenn_]

So whats the difference between the puma abs loom/sensors and the escort loom/sensors.

 

[quest63]

The Puma near side rear sensor has a right hand bend in it that makes it either impossible or near impossible to fit with 20mm spacers and above, unless you hack the bend to pieces. The escort estate loom has straight sensors on both sides with no 90 degree bend.

 

[Wild E. Coyote]

And puma rear sensors (only come in pair with the loom) can be had for 25 GBP, the straight ones cost over 90 GBP, I'm affraid! The other option is to drill the hole for the sensors on other part of stub axle. It doesn't matter as long as it is on the same diameter. You can have a look at FRP rear hubs; the holes are on the other side of shaft. Then the twist in ABS loom is not a problem anymore.
http://pumabuild.com/pumacat/product_info.php?cPath=43_69_864&products_id=1081" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Take a look at the picture