Don't think i'll bother with that one then yippee lol, MrPark3r if i could get a decent car for around £1500 and still have a bit left over off mine that would be great really, well if someone was giving one away in a raffle and i won that would be even better lol, but since i couldn't even win an arguement i think i'll put that idea out of my head lol. I suppose once i've got the cash in my hand i might have a better chance of haggling etc, i just really, really don't wanna get screwed over again... the car i had before this one (peugeot 206 gti) had outstanding finance on it from a previous owner, and me being an arse didn't bother to check this beforehand... it was ok though, i just got a letter asking for the details of who i bought it from etc. but i was half expecting them to come and take the car off me. I'm just tired of arsing around with different cars now, i just want one thats not gonna give me any grief.. at least for a while. Anyway i'm off on one of my essays again so i'd better leave it there lol.